Terry Murray’s postgame thoughts…
(on how the game got away from the Kings…)
MURRAY: “Good start. We score, they score, and the momentum seemed to change late in the first period, to me. That’s a good hockey club. They are on a tough trip right now. They’ve got like four games in six days here. They’re going to be very busy and they’re coming to play, and that’s a veteran team that knows how to do things right at a critical time in the year, in a big push to get their `A’ game on track for the playoffs. They score goals at the right time and gave us a real lesson here, I think, today in how to come and be ready just to play hard, to play smart, to play intelligently in a road game.’
(on whether he considered pulling Quick after the “first”…)
MURRAY: “I did, after the first goal. Is that what you mean? First goal, I thought about it. I don’t like that first goal.”
(on a rare poor effort from Quick…)
MURRAY: “This, right now, is the time when you’ve got to dig in, you bring your A game. Everybody has to be responsible for that. In my mind, that’s the player himself, in all the days that I played that’s your responsibility as a player to get yourself ready to do the right thing, so that you’re coming to the rink and you’re going to play. If you’re off your `A’ game, you bring your best `B’ game. You don’t let it drop out. You don’t drop down to the bottom. You’ve got to have your goaltender on top of his game anytime you play Detroit, and he had a tough game, a real tough game here today. So we’ll absorb this loss and hopefully we can bounce back and get ready to go against Phoenix.”
(on Detroit capitalizing on turnovers…)
MURRAY: “If you’re going to over-handle the puck, if you’re going to get cute with it, you’re going to get casual with it, this is the team that will expose you and capitalize on it.”
i noticed they had a man in the slot alot, i liked it.
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jess Reply:
February 28th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
@Guss, lol perfect
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Bkrs-Bud Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 12:05 am
@Guss, The wings always do unless somebody moves them out.
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 7:35 am
@Guss, Usually two on power plays. They seesaw in and out then jam when the shot is set up.
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 8:09 am
@USHA#17, You mean putting people in the slot on the PP generates offense? And here TM sold me on three guys at the blue line will surely get you goals.
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Terry, this one is partially on you for not pulling the tender! C’mon man “Coach Heavy” and pull the goalie after 4 unanswered goals.
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If i was TM i would have yanked Quick after the 2nd one give him a shot to regroup but that 2nd goal yes i know it was tipped but he looked flat footed on that even a tipped shot usually the goalie at least goes down or something
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puck73 Reply:
February 28th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
@kasey9, I’m afraid that not even Patrick Roy and his “Sofa cushion size goalie pads” would have helped the Kings tonite.
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kasey9 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 1:51 am
@puck73, ya sadly with all the great games the kings have had against Detroit recently it was one of those things you could kinda see coming eventually even more after the last time they played when the kings won 5-0 on that i think it was like 50 shot plus shutout by Quick that they were not gonna let that happen again.Next week will be interesting when they play them again
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 7:38 am
@kasey9, Going to lose sometime. Quick wasn’t ready from the start. Should have pulled him when he looked shaky after the second goal
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ringo Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 7:57 am
@kasey9, you cant stop it if you cant see it. there are not a lot of goalies out there with the superman x ray vision to see through players. bottom line we are a bigger team the wheels we needed to be more physical and make sure the crease was clear, or clearer. and let them know if you are going to park here then you are going to get popped even if it means a penalty here and there, let them keep that in the back of there mind. the shot or two that he did see was less then 15 feet out. now mind you quicker has stopped those type before, but your talking prime time scoring spot. we have a hell of s lot better defense then this game showed. that said………..on to the next…nuff said.
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ringo Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 7:58 am
@ringo, sorry that should have read….”we are a bigger team then the wheels”,,,
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Murray, you need to trust your instinct.
I knew quick was snakebitten tonight and needed to be pulled after the first goal and the mis-played puck before the second goal. Might have had a come back chance if he was pulled after that.
I’ve noticed a couple especially bad performances by goalies, Murray tends not to pull them until it’s too late. If I have any REAL criticism of TM it’s that. So hearing him say that he thought about pulling quick that early is interesting. It tells me that Murray saw what I saw but failed to act on it.
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kasey9 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 1:56 am
@Bill M., TM saying he thought about pulling Quick after the first one was kinda interesting since i have never seen a goalie get pulled for letting in one goal but i think he should have been yanked after the 2nd one being so flat footed on that shot even tho it was tipped.
Andy Murray was always good at pulling the goalie at the perfect times. TM must have that mentality to have his goalies fight through it but he needs to be like the other coaches out there and just yank him if it is just not going there way that game which sometimes happens like tonight
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 7:43 am
@Bill M., I also am against pulling a goalie early but feel you are right in respect to last night. It was clear he was off. However the same could be said for Howard. He frequently flubbed and misguessed but got lucky and in the late second made some great saves
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Puck2DaHead Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 8:28 am
@Bill M.,
If I was the coach, I would have pulled him at the first intermission. At that point, it was 3-1 with plenty of time for a come-back. You could hear it at the intermission when Patrick O’Neal interviewed the King (I don’t remember who it was), and the player mentioned that Quick probably wants to get a couple of those back.
It looked like maybe the Kings were a little less confident in Quick as the game went on, so that’s where I would’ve pushed Bernier out there at the start of the second.
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Well you know what this means, Quick will have one of his best performances against Coyotes! And if Kings need to lose for the statistics sake
, then Red Wings are an excellent choice.
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I like TM here telling it like it is.
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PENNER- I LIKE THE TRADE
1) Here the problem, everytime he moves to a new team, since he was a Kid, he sucks that 1st year on the team.
2) But looking forward to him kicking ass next year!!!!
3) If you do not belive me, look at his stats?
4) If Kings do not make the playoffs this year, we will know why.
5) But I sure can see the cup comiming in the near future.
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locdog1 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 12:22 am
@Sammuch, if the Kings don’t make the playoffs…. not sure you can pin that on Penner…
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luc20rules Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 1:38 am
@Sammuch, Since we didn’t trade a roster player. Penner only needs to out perform our 12th forward to not be blamed for not making the playoffs. Yes, I know for at least 10 games he will be in the top 6 forwards definetly starting on the top line with Kopi to start. He has only been on 2 NHL teams, I don’t think you can write anything in stone. If you count his rookie year, that probably the same for 90% of players that need to adjust to the speed of the NHL.
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Quick’s problem started in the 3rd period vs Colorado.
IMO TM had to pull him after 1st or 2nd goal. Quick usually responds well after couple of bad games.
The problem is that this race is too tight for someone not to show up ready to play.
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not TM’s fault but i do wish he pulled Quick after that first goal. he just didn’t have it tonight – he was fighting the puck all night. but i could tell this wasn’t the Kings night right away.
bad goal by quick, phantom high stick call, bad bounces – it’s a night to forget all the way around.
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 7:47 am
@Dave, The Kings tried to be the Wings and of backfired. They are not fast enough to get back on defense when they play that type of game.
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against Detroit and teams this good you need the following and all of which TM didn’t do……….
(*average in brackets*)
-mentally prepared players (B)
-game plan of forecheck (B+)
-great goaltending (C-)
-use of all 4 lines, fresh troops (C-)
-take the body (C)
-capitalize on chances (F)
*we couldn’t possibly win this game with this type of effort……..
Park it guys and forget it Coyotes is the big one this week, then we will worry about Vancouver
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 7:49 am
@Harty, You also need to be fast enough to be able to get back on defense.
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I wouldnt have pulled Quick after the first goal, but probably would have after the second, if not he for sure wouldnt have started the second period. He hasnt had a bad game in a while and i happens, lets hope the get remotivated with Penner.
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I’m on TM side with leaving Quick in last night. I see it as a lesson, to where if you play half a$$ this is what happens and goes for any player on the ice. Quick is our MVP this year so far and even MVP’s need to be held accountable. I know Quick will bounce back, we have a tough stretch ahead so let’s re-group and go collect those points!
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 7:51 am
@DaveinSD, Do you think a goalie does GAA math between shots in a game like this?
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DaveinSD Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 8:01 am
@USHA#17, we can pick at this all we want but my comment was referring to mental toughness and to me TM was giving him a class on it. Number one, the first goal was horrible and should not have happened and two, after that bad goal I can assume it sat in Quick’s head therefore losing the rest of the game mentally. “It was a bad goal, just let it goe!”
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Whoa whoa, all. It’s One game. Last time we smoked them 5 zip. This time 7-4 a 3 goal difference. It happens once in a while check the rest of the teams. Quick is a very good goaltender. Who had a sorta bad nite, a few of those pucks were unstopable even with 2 tenders in at once. Just not the Kings nite. Rebound and move on and hope Penner helps put a few more pucks in the net and help our whole team. Go Kings Go
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Quick was actually very weak against Colorado as well. But he faced so few shots that it wasn’t noticeable. I hope we’re not going to see a repeat of what happened last year at this time for Quick, or the Kings may be on the outside looking in, Penner or no Penner.
Bernier should start the next game, give Quick a break.
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TM nailed it about making mistakes with Detroit. You may be able to get away with a couple but when they lost control in their zone the wings were all over them and made em pay for it. Detroit to me is a very “professional” team meaning they know how to get the job done with experience, grit and determination. They come to play and they’re all business. We need to adopt that attitude every time we hit the ice from the first drop of th puck to the last horn.
IMO TM shoulda called a timeout to regroup the team and break detritus momentum.
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puck73 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 11:34 am
@Hat trick, Great point. I agree, he not only should have called a timeout but I also believe he should have put Bernier in to start the 3rd period..after the 4th goal was scored it was apparrent to me that this just wasnt Quick’s night.
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I love all this armchair coaching going on. Nobody pulls a goalie after 1 goal and none of you guys would have either.
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