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Tuesday practice update

Posted by Rich Hammond on 22 February 2011, 11:59 am

The Kings will make at least one lineup change tomorrow, with Davis Drewiske returning — in a pairing with Matt Greene — and replacing Alec Martinez. Jonathan Quick will start in goal against Anaheim and Terry Murray did not announce his fourth line, but based on practice it seems to be a choice between Alexei Ponikarovsky and Kevin Westgarth on right wing. The news isn’t good for injured winger Scott Parse, who recently experienced pain and has been shut down from skating. More on all this, and more, to come…

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SoftDumpnChase says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:01 pm

I look at the roster and cringe these days

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tornado12 says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm

WOW! I did not expect AM to be benched. I thought the defense had been playing pretty well, but I guess his O numbers have dropped off a bit and maybe the reason for the change. All these changes are amking me nervous though.

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friarking Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
@tornado12, He made some really poor plays in the last game. TM probably just wants to give him a view from the box for a game or two.

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tornado12 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
@friarking, but didnt everybody play piss poor? why just bench AM?

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Stuart Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:19 pm
@tornado12, maybe TM took to heart all the comments on here about Lolkti being scrutinized for poor play while AM wasn’t called out for his actions… I knew TM took his coaching tips from Rich’s blog! jokes peeps

fsd1 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
@tornado12, you can’t bench the whole team

Jamer Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
@friarking, Start with the Kopi, Brown and Simmons benching and see how fast the rest get on board and move their butts.

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Matt Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
@tornado12,

AMart trade perhaps??? J/K

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KH Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
@Matt, good skater, great puck mover, accurate shot, and young. could be good trade bait. i like alec a lot but it wouldnt be completely surprising if he got moved considering how many d prospects we have in the system

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TheRussianKing Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:14 pm
@Matt, Very possible, I wouldn’t rule it out. He’s underrated and Toronto has made it known it wants puck moving D’s.

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1HKYLVR Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:16 pm
@TheRussianKing, I see a trade because alot teams need a D
and we need someone who can score

KH Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
@TheRussianKing, Rangers want one too and they do have a pure sniper. i think he got a concussion though? (DL likes those guys) and gaboriks contract is expensive but he has a good upside and brings a lot of speed. whats everyone elses opinion on gaborik?

tornado12 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:18 pm
@Matt, i hope not, but I guess if we get a really good player in return, it would be OK. better not be for a rental though.

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jayhay Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
@tornado12, my initial thought was that this is a showcase for DD2. And if that’s the case, AM is the obvious guy to sit out. I strongly believe that DD2 is the roster player that we can move, get decent value for and have not affect the team negatively.

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KH Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
@jayhay, smart way to look at it. i agree

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KC23 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:34 pm
@tornado12,

AM did have a horrible game. By far the worst since his return. I’m okay with this.

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Doughty99 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
@KH,

“As reported by Andrew Gross of the Bergen Record, forward Marian Gaborik has a concussion and will be out for an indefinite period of time.

Gaborik did not travel with the New York Rangers on their current road trip.”

I don’t think DL will be acquiring Gaborik. Next?

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Jordan says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm

Re: Parse…that’s unfortunate.

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Dominick Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
@Jordan, Yes, that is unfortunate. Hope Parsely is O.K. That LW1 position is looking pretty grim. No depth, 2 recovering left wingers, and a rookie who’s never played that position before. Funny that this is the position we need the most, and it is the weekest position in the line up. Naturallawyer brougt up som interesting points last night about Helene Elliotts article the other day. I think this is the momment of truth for DL, to quiet the critics.

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Sean says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:07 pm

At this point Parse should be done for the season…let him get 100% healthy…weve managed just fine without him. Id rather see him come back next year 100%…then try to make a comeback soon and risk more injury!

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Lime Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
@Sean, I have to agree. I think that’s why we got Sturm in the first place to be honest.

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KingsFanFTW says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:07 pm

BOOOOOO Not Martinez i think he better than JJ and Doughty

He knows how to hit the Net

Doughty and JJ always miss and its stupid

BOOO not happy lame lame lame

Dam poor Scott Parse i hope u get better next season doesnt look like u returning this season

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Canadian King Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
@KingsFanFTW,
Better than JJ and Doughty? you must be joking. If that was the case than why didn’t DL trade AM to Dallas for Neal and Niskanen? Cause JJ and Doughty are way better than Goligoski is.

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KingsFanFTW Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
@Canadian King, yup that what am saying

i also i think he better than DD and JJ

Doesnt mean its true ok

i don’t have to recommend my comment because to me i think he is better

JJ and DD hasnt been making the right moves ,,,,, on the Islander game who was it when they got a Shorthander goal JJ and DD together

JJ fails to take the body when Martinez does take the body

u can go to the past then of course JJ and DD are ten times better than Martinez but this year i don’t think so

but that just me

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CanadianKing Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
@KingsFanFTW,
Ummm… I recommend you re-think most of this comment.

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Dominick Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Actually JJ, and DD have better average shots per game than Martinez, so their a lot better at hitting the net. DD has a higher shooting % so he’s alot better at scoring, and JJ has a far better assist per game stat so his shots are a lot more dangerous. Martinez is only a rookie so you can’t expect it all his first year, he will get better along with JJ and DD.

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deadcatbounce Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:40 pm
@Dominick, I’m not singling you out, but I see a lot of comments on here that say _____ _____ is young, so he’s only going to get better. Really? Do all young players get better? I don’t think so and I wonder why other people do. It would be nice if it were the case but, sadly, it isn’t.

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Dominick Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
@deadcatbounce, Seeing Martinez, DD, ad JJ play, and judging from how young they are, I have the confidence to say that it’s an educated guess. Nothings a gaurentee.

KingsFanFTW Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:18 pm
@Dominick, to me he always missing the net both of them

sometimes they get it sometimes they doesnt

Martinez looks like he hitting the net alot of times

But i also said I think

Doesnt mean it is true

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Dominick Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
@KingsFanFTW, I understand. Their Corsi stats tell that JJ, and DD also take more shots, and miss more often if that is any consolation. I do see JJ, and DD as the superior talents though. Martinez being out shouldn’t draw a comparison to the 2 best D-men we have, is probably what I’m getting at.

KingsFanFTW Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
@Dominick, yea but i wouldn’t agree on either JJ or DD being bench either

Not agreeing with Martinez tho but i don’t see what TM does

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kinginsaltlake Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Dude you have written a lot of good posts, but this one you missed the mark.

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KingsFanFTW Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
@kinginsaltlake, well i did said i think tho didnt mean it was true hey what i like about martinez he a very young guys and he seems hungry all the time

But hey i can be wrong am only human

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pr0cess says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:11 pm

Martinez has been doing well i thought…. So why is it he will sit someone like that but not JJ or DD?? if your going sit one guy you should be fair across the board!

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HockeyNerd Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
@pr0cess, So you’re saying we should sit the entire team? What’s your point?

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KingsFanFTW Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
@HockeyNerd, i disagree on that his point that JJ and DD errors they been doing and they never got Bench

Martinez slip up once he gets in big trouble for it

Dont u think that wrong

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HockeyNerd Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:01 pm
@KingsFanFTW, Ummmm……actually NO.

It is not about nenching someone to “punish” them, it is what is best for the team.

JJ and DD NEED to be playing.

AM has slipped up “more than once”.

He is not in “Big Trouble”. He is going to watch ONE game from the press box.

TM just can’t do anything right for most people here……..

Bkrs-Bud Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
@pr0cess, Life is not fair.

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BigMikeonD says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:17 pm

I have read some Marion Gaborik rumors. Would we actually take on that kind of a contract? Seems really far fetched, but the guy can skate and score.

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RyanSD Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
@BigMikeonD,
I think they would. It really is time for DL to get serious. We have a GAPING hole on the left wing and it must be addressed or we will have a very short playoff run… If any at all. DL didn’t sign a big name winger last summer because he was penny pinching knowing he needed cap space to re-sign JJ and DD. Well he locked up JJ for WAY less than expected so… The money is there.

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Bkrs-Bud Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:31 pm
@RyanSD, Get ready for a short run,unless D.L. likes the price tag.

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Stuart says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:23 pm

While I feel bad for SP, I don’t feel bad not having him in our line-up. Had he had this year to be as inconsistant as last, we’d have been calling for his head along time ago. I don’t see how/why everyone kids themselves about him being our answer. He’s not. He’s our new Craig Johnson, all speed and…well, just all speed.

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Hesperia STH Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:27 pm
@Stuart, I thought the same way about Molson, Purcell, and Boyle.

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Belexes Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
@Hesperia STH,

And you were right. Those boys did absolutely nothing for us while in the lineup.

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RLane420 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
@Belexes, Did nothing or were not allowed to do anything. There new coaches seem to be getting somthing out of them.

Belexes Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
@Belexes,

O yeah, I forgot. TM tied all their skate laces together so they wouldnt succeed out there! These boys that get into our lineup and dont produce, only have TM to blame! /rolls eyes

Naturallawyer Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
@Belexes, Moulson himself said he needed a change of scenery. Some players wake up and reevaluate themselves after leaving their first organization. It’s not all that rare.
Jstin says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:26 pm

I’m always dumbfounded by TM choices. Not saying I know better as my hockey knowledge is no better than watching/reading and playing like a goon… but our defense is fine right? Look at the numbers. It our offense that needs a change/benched From what I’ve seen AM has played better if not exactly the same as every other defense men on the team.

I just don’t understand how the younger players get called out and benched but the core/veteran players will never ever get called out or benched.

If TM is doing this to give AM a chance to watch the game from above I really really really wish DL would bench TM for one game and let him watch from above, maybe that would help. I mean it would make sense right?

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friarking Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
@Jstin,

I would assume it’s all about the learning process and bringing up/developing a player the right way. AM has a lot of potential and I’d rather him be a scratch for a game or two than turn into a Randy Jones.

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Bkrs-Bud Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
@friarking, Nice point.

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THEROCKNROLL80S Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
@Jstin, too much sense

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BigMikeonD says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:29 pm

Did anyone consider that playing DD2 is a way of showcasing him and maybe trading him? He has not played in so long he has to be rusty. Teams want to see what he can do.

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Munchrat Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
@BigMikeonD, That is what I think may be happening. There were scouts from 10 different teams at the Rangers game. There are many GMs out there that are salivating at the thought of picking from the Kings’ farm.

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CupRun2011 says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:31 pm

Maybe a move for AM?

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mike says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:31 pm

It’s gonna be a heavy game. We’ll need his big body..it’ll be heavy..Haha

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Sebastian Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
@mike, great insight Terry

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Jstin Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
@mike,
DD2 6’2 222lbs 0G 5A -1 36 GP
AM 6’1 210lbs 3G 7A +5 39 GP

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mike Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
@Jstin,
I’ve been watching DD2 during the last few practices and he seems really hungry out there. It’s what’s needed this time of year.

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Belexes Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
@mike,

TM? Is that you?

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mike Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
@Belexes,
Sounds like something he would say wouldn’t it! I’ve heard the same stuff out of him this entire season. Maybe it’s sticking to me…

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j says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:37 pm

Shopping Drewiske for a potential trade?

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Choralone says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:39 pm

They’re hockey players, not avocados. Some posters here are so afraid a player’s going to get bruised by being benched. They’re made of sterner stuff than that. If theres one thing I would hope even the haters should trust here, it’s Murray’s reputation of knowing how to coach young players.

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HockeyNerd Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
@Choralone, TM haters have to criticize EVERY single thing he does.

When we were losing his problem was he didn’t call anybody out.

Then when he REALLY RIPS INTO SOMEONE (sarcasm) by saying he had a bad game and made some mistakes, he is destroying a young player’s confidence.

You can’t EVER win if you’re TM.

Actually, yes you can. But nobody notices…….

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RLane420 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
@Choralone, For me it isnt worrying about the players feelings its about winning games. I am concerned about the way we were playing on the road. They were doing real good now they lose 1 game and lets change everything. I dont care who you are you are going to lose games. Why does that mean that because we had an off game lets change all the lines take out 2 players and mess with the chemistry of a team that was on a serious roll. How about you work on the PP instead. That is what the real problem is not our players getting exposed its our PP that has the team exposed.

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deadcatbounce says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:43 pm

At least AM will get to munch on some of those great cookies that Rich mentioned when he ranked his favorite cities.

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Stuart Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
@deadcatbounce, now THAT’S hilarious… munch on those cookies AM while DD2 gets burned in your roster spot… Unless DD2 has those new PFFlyer skates, he’s going to get skated figure-8s around him…

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Dominick Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
@Stuart,
Just because Whiskey hasn’t played for a while doesn’t mean that he’s suddenly going to fold the second you throw him out there. Whiskey is a good player who has waited patiently for a chance to play, and if we were’nt so deep at defense he would have been playing already. It’s not a matter of Whiskey sucks as much as a testement to how deep we are at defense. Even when we suck as a team, our defense and goaltending are our strongest assets. Also if the team is ready to trade his rights, then they have to play him. Either way, I don’t see this move hurting the team.

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Stuart Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
@Dominick, Never not once did I say DD2 would FOLD. I was reference to his foot speed, or lack thereof. I’ve seen sap form, goop together, and fall from a tree faster than I’ve seen DD2 skate blue-to-blue.

Dominick Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
@Stuart, Fair enough. He is faster than Greene, Scuds, and Mitchell though. He just gets caught flat footed more than those 3, which is why Martinez was so refreshing. I think he’ll fill in and the Kings won’t miss a beat.

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poe says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:53 pm

Just a side note: After firing their respegtive coaches, both the Islanders and Devils have started winning!! Hmmm…take heed DL
There should be a song dedicated to TM called the LINE SCRAMBLE.I agree..mabe TM should watch a few games from the press box and have JK there with him

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HockeyNerd Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
@poe, After everyone called for TM to be fired, and DL said he wasn’t going to make changes, we started winning!!

Hmmmm…take heed bloggers.

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Cynic Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
@poe, Sorry, but going 5-1-3 on a 9 game roadie does not constitute a firing. There may be problems, but none that big to fire TM over.

TM & DL have to both take their respective games as coach & GM to the next level with the Los Angeles Kings. TM has been to a cup finals before as a coach. DL has not. Both excel at team building and have done a great job at it. Now they have to make the moves that count to make us contenders for the duration and not the moment.

Tough mission for both.

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fsd1 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
@Cynic, thanks, nice post.

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Shotongoal Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
@Cynic, I completely agree that the road trip has been a success. My concern is that the coaching staff, particularly TM is not capable of taking his “game” to the next level. Very early in the season I praised him for being the exact right coach for this team, but warned that at some point, in a year or two, this team might outgrow him. Then as the season progressed, I made a comment that that time may have come sooner than first thought. At this point of the season I’m not sure a coaching change is appropriate, although history has shown that a late season coaching change is usually more effective than a trade, so who knows….But I do think this team has to seriously evaluate it’s coaching staff in the off-season. Although, the right trade may just get them somewhere. I just don’t know if DL is capable or if ownership will allow more him to add more salary.

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Bkrs-Bud Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
@Cynic, A very difficult job indeed.

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Mongo88 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
@Cynic, I couldn’t agree with you more. It’s not a sprint.

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OC Hip Check says:

February 22, 2011 at 12:57 pm

“Terry Murray did not announce his fourth line, but based on practice it seems to be a choice between Alexei Ponikarovsky and Kevin Westgarth on right wing”

Lets just hope TM makes the right decision and plays Poni!

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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
@OC Hip Check, it baffles me that anyone would consider playing Westgarth over Poni. should be a sdlam dunk decision! Poni / In, Westgarth / out

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Eli1526 says:

February 22, 2011 at 1:03 pm

I heard that Burke is trying to make a deal with dl. The deal was supposed to be schenn,symmonds for kessil and karri but dl doesn’t want to give up symmonds so maybe he put am in the trade instead

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Shotongoal Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
@Eli1526, Listen carefully……there is no way DL trades Schenn, unless its for Nash, Datsyuk, Ryan or a very select few others that match that skill level, and that just isn’t going to happen. I doubt very much that Simmonds would be the hold up in that scenario…

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Eli1526 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
@Shotongoal, Relly because I’ve heard that schenn is on the market. Just to let you know he hasn’t even proven himself yet if dl does the trade he would get a great player that would play with kopi and a player that was drafted 2 spots after schenn

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JayGoLAKings says:

February 22, 2011 at 1:04 pm

Looks like Hiller will not be in net for Anaheim on Wednesday. According to Ducks Blog, Hiller was not on the Honda Center ice during a long Ducks practice this afternoon.

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Dominick Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:12 pm
@JayGoLAKings,
I think it will be MC. Emery isn’t ready either. They’ve been embaressed the last 3 games, so I expect them to focus on cutting down chances, and a strong showing from their goalie. The Kings are struggling to score goals consistantly right now so this will be a tuff one. Nothings free anymore.

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Shakes Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:00 pm
@JayGoLAKings,

I can’t believe I’m saying this but I sorta wished Hiller was in the nets. I want to beat a squad full strength and on a non-Kings/Ducks note I just hope Hiller gets better. Also we thought we had a break in facing Montoya in Long Island and that didn’t work out well (Although I would argue that Montoya didn’t really have to “beat us” as much as the Islanders just played more hungry and limited real scoring chances despite our shot total)

Quick question: have the Kings and Ducks ever played in February with both squads in playoff positions? This may be the first meaninggul late season game for both teams…ever.

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JayGoLAKings Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
@Shakes, Congrats! on your road win.

I don’t think both teams together had a play-off position in February. They are both out for now.

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Dominick Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:33 pm
@Shakes,
Good Question. I started to rsearch it but got side tracked and ultimately got lazy. LOL

I agree on meeting the Ducks at full strength also. In their building with playoff positions at stake. That would make the battle so much more intense, and to the victor go the spoils of war.

The Kings have shown against St.Louis that they can’t take anyone for granted.

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dude says:

February 22, 2011 at 1:05 pm

So park Martinez to avoid injury cause he’s being traded? lol maybe, maybe not BUT Leafs are looking for a d-man AND Brian Burke didnt commit to saying Clarke MacArthur wouldnt be traded. personally i like McArth, he’s young,skilled and dare i say a natural LW lol

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Dave says:

February 22, 2011 at 1:06 pm

i actually don’t mind the Drewiske for Martinez move. Anaheim has some big bodies and Martinez might have trouble clearing the front of the net. Hopefully Drewiske won’t have too much rust on him and will play inspired.

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Dave Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
@Dave, on the other hand, waffling between Poni is Westgarth is ridiculous. Poni should play, Westgarth should not see the ice until training camp.

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puck73 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
@Dave, Good afternoon, my name is Peter Harrold…and I have splinters in my ass.

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dude Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
@puck73, haha…well said

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Cynic says:

February 22, 2011 at 1:07 pm

Didn’t expect the Martinez benching. DD2 has been pretty patient and TM is putting a lot of responsibility on him to put him in a divisional game like this, especially for what’s at stake.

I hope Davis responds. I know he can.

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Dominick Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
@Cynic, I hope he comes out hitting, and makes it even harder to make a decision on the defensive pairings. He’ll definately be motivated, he just has to play smart. Good problem to have if he’s ready to go.

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Shotongoal says:

February 22, 2011 at 1:10 pm

I am completely dumbfounded by the decision to replace Martinez in the line up with Drewiske. Drewiske brings nothing to this team. I’m sure this move is based on giving up 3+ goals in each of the last 3 games. But this team isn’t scoring either. So yeah take away a potential scoring threat from the blueline for a D-man who brings ZERO to this team. Ya know what??? Nevermind, this move should not surprise me anymore than some of the others this staff makes, and oh yeah, way to sit on those hands Deano while other teams get better through trades. Paralysis by analysis is becoming the norm with the coaching staff and front office.

We shall see……

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puck73 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
@Shotongoal, Good afternoon, my name is Peter Harrold and I approve this message.

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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:20 pm
@Shotongoal, you read to much Helene Elliott!

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Shotongoal Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:59 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, and so you would disagree? Tell what this coach and GM have done to improve this team since the 12-3 start. And please don’t tell,” me if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.”

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King John says:

February 22, 2011 at 1:16 pm

This was Parse’s chance this year to either break out and become a good NHL player, or take a back seat. These injuries might have cost him an NHL career… unless it’s elsewhere, because by next year that spot won’t be open. Or on the other hand, you never know, if DL doesn’t trade for anyone and if Sturm isn’t the answer, we may still have a top LW spot open.

I was hoping to see some sparks from you, Parsely. You and Lokti might make a connection and show us some moves. (Both of you need to toughen up on the puck though). And a RW who can dig out pucks and send them your way. How about Parse—Lokti—Simmonds, pretending all was well?

IF everyone was healthy:

Sturm—Kopitar—Brown
Smyth—Stoll—Williams
Parse—Lokti—Simmonds
Clifford—Handzus—Richie/Poni/Westgarth

I know that’s assuming a lot…

And this is different than Parse—Kopitar—Brown, which had some success.

And some may want to switch Brown and Simmonds.

And the 3rd line is more of an up-and-coming 2nd 2nd line.
The 4th line is more of a 3rd line.

Just thought I’d throw it out there.

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King John Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Or, to keep it more real, if Parse was indeed healthy, at the beginning we could have a sparky 4th line with Lokti (you know TM would be tentative to play them too much anyway, so here’s a way):

Clifford—Handzus—Simmonds
Parse—Loktionov—Richardson

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gene says:

February 22, 2011 at 1:17 pm

Hockey fans, tell me how close I am. I think around 6 is the number of games so far this year TM has not changed the lines from the previous game The rest of the games TM has changed the line up. If that is close to being correct the players can never get use to each other. I know Detroit most of the time always keeps there lines the same unless they have a injury. Am I close.

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puck73 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
@gene, I am just burned out on TM, and sometimes I get the impression so is the team.

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CB14 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
@gene, That’s probably 6 too many, in TM’s mind. Plus it’s not like Detroit is any good or anything. Sarcasm. Not to change the subject, but since you brought up Detroit, That’s a team that doesn’t have an enforcer, and hasn’t had one for 15 years. But I believe you like having KW in the line-up. If I’m wrong, then I apoligize, but I think my memory serves me right on this one.

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gene Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:05 pm
@CB14, Yes sir you are absoutely correct about KW. Reason being. If you take him out againest those teams who have heavey weights; I.E. Quacks, Phil, Islanders, ect ect you then run the risk of having to have Clifford and Simmons and maybe Green do your fighting for you. With that said that takes them off the ice for at least 5 minutes if not more depending on what the circumstances are. I know and I agree I am mad that KW didnt do anything the last game when one of our forwards was run. But on the other hand neither did the other 4 players on the ice at that time do anything either.KW does not loose all the games for us. It takes 19 total players to either win or loose. So you cant blame him for every loss.

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CB14 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
@gene, I don’t blame him for every loss, just the one’s he’s in. LOL Just Kidding.

My opinion is that the Kings are at their best when they can roll all 4 lines in any game at any time. TM will not play KW more than 5 mins. a game. By having KW in the lineup it forces us to double shift guys in place of him, which doesn’t allow them to get their normal rest. I would be fine with KW if he was able to play 10 mins. a night, which he’s not, on the 4th line like Michael Rupp. Rupp is 6-5 230, has 10 fights this year, and plays 10:12 a game.

With KW in Lineup – 19-20-2
Without KW in Lineup – 13-3-2
Those records speak for themselves.

gene Reply:
February 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 am
@gene, CB14 you bring up some valid and correct points. I have no problem with what you are saying. With that said; then the kings need to go out and get a forth line heavey like Mr Rupp who can protect the forwards from being run and also play a good ten minutes without hurting the team.. I will use the Boston Burins as an example. Two weeks or so ago they played the Dallas stars and the next nite they played Montreal. In both games they ran those two teams out of the rinks. They not only won both games but beat them down in numerous fights. The Stars have not won but one game since then. They have not been the same period. Boston has at least 8 players who can kick some serious booty. Now will they win the cup maybe not. But look at Phil the sam strengths as Boston. Tonite, watch the quacks, Perry, Getsloff and Ryan will start running our forwards into the boards or middle of the rink. Lets see if the kings put up with that or return the hits? Most forwards who do not fight wil tell you it is alot easier to play when they knowthey have players who can protect them. We have maybe three, simmons, clifford and grene. Some of the other players wil fight if they absolutly have to but is is not there forte. The quacks always play there top enforcer, and he doesnt get to many goals either (Perros). So I thnk we both have valid points. Its great emailing you. Have a great day. Go Kings.
Buster says:

February 22, 2011 at 1:26 pm

I hope they get a chance to hook 44DD with some more ice time, either with the Kings or fastening to another team. This is time to let the 44DD loose and show us he isn’t a bust.

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gokings Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:18 pm
@Buster, How do you ever call an undrafted free agent a “bust”?

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HappyLappy says:

February 22, 2011 at 1:34 pm

The obvious senerio to me is that AM IS the trade factor, you would not sit him in place of DD2 (showcasing him). But rather to prevent AM from being injured before a trade. Let’s face it, DD2 is not going to bring enough value in a trade versus AM.

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BrokeKingsFan says:

February 22, 2011 at 2:07 pm

@KingsFanFTW, hahahahahahahahah, i have trouble reading most of your posts but that was funny and i understood it completly.

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KingsFanFTW Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:44 pm
@BrokeKingsFan, LOL sorry i not good in English as u can tell ^^ lol

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kinginsaltlake says:

February 22, 2011 at 2:17 pm

I guess the club we saw on the road will be somewhat different than the one that’s back in So Cal. All that matters is winning. Do what ever you do ,just bring us fans results.

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