There were no Phoenix-based reporters in attendance at last night’s game, so there isn’t really a view from Phoenix, but here are some additional postgame quotes from the Coyotes’ locker room last night…
COACH DAVE TIPPETT
(on the game…) “When you can come in and steal one like that, that’s a good two points for us. Bryzgalov was obviously very good. We got ourselves into some penalty trouble. … They put a lot of pressure on us through our penalties but we managed to weather the storm and find a way to win.”
(on the tight Western Conference…) “It’s a dog fight every day. It feels like an 82-game playoff schedule. Every game you go in, it’s almost like (it) is a must-win. That’s the way you treat it. … You try to give your players enough rest, you try to make sure we’re prepared but every game is very valuable points.”
(on Ilya Bryzgalov…) “He was very strong. We kept a lot of pucks to the outside but he was very strong. Not a lot of rebounds, and I thought we did a pretty good job around the net, and then he made the stops he had to make.”
SHANE DOAN
(on the game…) “We knew it was going to be a tough game, and we recognized how good those guys are and we gave them way too many power plays. If we give them that many they’re going to capitalize, and we can’t afford to do that in the next game.”
(on Ilya Bryzgalov’s performance…) “We said when everyone is good, Bryzie has to be great, and he was great tonight. We weren’t bad but we weren’t near as good as we need to be, and Bryzie was really good.”
MARTIN HANZAL
(on the penalty-kill unit…) “I think the faceoffs were very huge, and just blocking shots, and I think Bryzie was outstanding today. The goalie is a big part of the team.”
How sad the game wasn’t on TV there and no reporters from Phoenix even showed up!
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King John Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 3:04 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Move the team back to Winnipeg.
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Im confused…. IF the PUCK didn’t conclusively hit Hanzals stick, and didn’t hit him with the shot from the point, then he shoudnt be credited with the goal then.. If they do credit him with the goal, that means he did conclusively make contact with the puck, which was OBVIOUSLY over the crossbar? Right?
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:41 am
@Michael_DD8, I think the assertion was that they weren’t sure it went off his stick. They have to credit the goal to someone and they credited it to him. From the video, it does seem to me that it was obviously over the crossbar, and the puck obviously changed angular momentum after it hit his stick (or vice-versa.)
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Stuart Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:43 am
@Michael_DD8, You raise an interesting point. They do indeed have to credit it to someone, but to say that it never conclusively touched his stick would mean that it should be credited to the player that shot the puck. That’s a definite catch-22. To credit him would mean he touched it. if he touched it, it was high, therefore no goal… the dog that chases his tail will get dizzy.
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Michael_DD8 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:51 am
@Stuart,
Kenneth, i see what your saying. Still though , just like stuart said, if there not sure, it shouldve been credidted to the defenseman who FORSURE shot it..They knew it went of hanzels stick, not to mention, the puck changed motion in a instant. Its shocking, absoultelty shocking when im watch hing this video, and it GOES OFF HIS STICK, credit the goal to him, and then tell us they cant say its conclusive enough to say it hit his stick? THEN GIVE THE DEFENSE MAN that goal ATLEAST. I wasnt that pissed, getting pissed now! hahahaa
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:55 am
@Michael_DD8, I don’t think the standard is the same in both situations. I think they’re supposed to credit the goal to whoever they THINK scored it, but they have to have PROOF he hit it with a high stick to disallow the goal (because it was called a goal on the ice.) They’re two separate judgment calls. I think that’s the way the rules require, but maybe the rules don’t make sense.
FKA PakiFro Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:56 am
@Michael_DD8,
I think he deflected the intial shot before it hit quick and up into the air.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:02 am
@PakiFro, That would make it definitive, I suppose.
Michael_DD8 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:03 am
@Michael_DD8,
95% sure Hanzal doesnt touch it until he stick its in. You can see the shot come, it hits Quick’s stick and rides up it, into the air. Hanzal had the screen, but turned and hit it in.
Stuart Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:18 am
@WTFKenneth, not WTF, just didnt want to type it all out – but nonethless, goals are credited to the precise person who last touched the puck. That’s why they changed a Kings scorer days after the game (last week I think if I recall correctly). They just don’t go around willy-nilly crediting goals. So the league is in a bind here, because to say that Handzal is credited is to admit the F’d up because they’re agreeing he touched it. I wouldn’t be surprised if the official scorer is changed in the coming days just so the league can CTA and let this issue fade away. They can’t give him the goal but say that he didn’t conclusively touch it, that’s talking out of both sides of your mouth or even somewhere else where there is worse breath!!!
jet Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:52 am
@Michael_DD8, The ruling was that he did hit the puck out of the air, but that it was below the crossbar.
Consider the facts, the stick was about 2 inches above his helmet when the stick hit the puck. Handzel is 4’2″, 4’6″ with skates. He was slightly bent over, so his helmet was 3’9″ off the ice. Add the 2 inches from the stick over the helmet and thus the stick made contact about 3’11″ off the ice. Easy call for all four referees.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:56 am
@jet, Jim Fox said they told him they weren’t sure he even hit the puck.
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Michael_DD8 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:02 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
Id also like to ask the refs if they would have called a highstick on that if he wouldve hit Matt Greene? Or no? Cuase it was a follow through on a shot?
jet Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:06 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Well it appeared the ref who made the call signaled the stick was below the bar. I have seen a thousand times where a ref makes a bad call and then tries to fit the situation to justify the call after it was made. It would be much better for the league if they just come out and say, “Look, we made a mistake on this one. All four refs got it wrong this one time.” Instead we are going to hear speculation that the league needs the Yotes to make the playoffs so that the league can off load the team. Can you imagine if the league does not admit the truth and the yotes recieve a favorable call against an east coast team in the playoff stretch?
jet Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:08 am
@Michael_DD8, uhh, Matt Greene is 4’2″ also.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:12 am
Well, I don’t know about the conspiracy, but the official who made the call said it was a goal. There was one other qualified official on the ice, and I don’t know what he said. It was up to the officials in the “game room” to find conclusive evidence the call was wrong. They say they didn’t believe they had that evidence. That’s enough for me, or I wouldn’t waste my time watching (if it’s fixed.) However, they should admit that the system doesn’t give them the view they need to make the best call. Then again, if it did, we’d be arguing about it when the difference was fractions of an inch, not a foot (which isn’t to say they shouldn’t have a camera installed for that view.)
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:15 am
That should have been “war room”–don’t know where “game room” came from.
Miranda Reply:
January 24th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
@jet, Am I reading correctly? Hanzel is 4’6″???? That is some SHORT hockey player!!! I read he’s 6’6″ with skates… So your claim, and I quote “He was slightly bent over, so his helmet was 3’9″ off the ice. Add the 2 inches from the stick over the helmet and thus the stick made contact about 3’11″ off the ice. Easy call for all four referees.”…
would make him 5’11″ off the ice, right? I agree with you, “Easy call for all 4 refs…NO GOAL!”
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Michael_DD8 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:15 am
@Michael_DD8,
DO they used sounds too? Im pretty sure you can hear it HIT the stick.
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well we played a good game last night, we just couldnt beat briz. which isnt a shock the only thing we did horrible in was our power play (whats new)
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:42 am
@kennynakamoto, With the exception of the shift following the bad call, I’d agree. They lack poise, they lack offense, and the power play is not working.
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jet Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:43 am
@kennynakamoto, agree, we have played well for the past few games. we just cannot seem to catch a break. Hopefully, no one in the organization panics, as we are moving in the right direction overall.
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“When you can come in and steal one like that, that’s a good two points for us.” No pun intended, right, Tippett?
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Michael_DD8 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:54 am
@Loskingpride,
hahaha
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:57 am
@Loskingpride, I’m going to suck it up as a fan and disagree. The Kings could have had a chance if they didn’t choke and give up the second goal. Because they did, the ‘Yotes deserved to win. That’s the way I see it, trying to be objective.
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hockey junkie Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 11:41 am
@Loskingpride,
Thought the same thing!!! Except they didnt steal it WAR ROOM GAVE IT TO THEM!
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BTW, excellent still frame shot!
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so now the league is investigating Lombardi? Dean is right when he says Murphy is just upset for not getting the GM position with kings! http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=350421
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Michael_DD8 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:56 am
@dude,
Hell get a fine prob, but hes rich so screw it.. haha
There saying there checking to see if a reporter miss quoted him however. Hopefully that doesn’t get anyone we know in trouble
^^
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jet Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:56 am
@dude, DL will probably get the beat down for talking, but every once in a while he has to stick up for the boys. This is one of those cases. I will contribute to the “pay the fine” club.
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puck73 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:54 am
@jet, concur
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all in all we played a very good game last night. we only played the dump and chase type of hockey when we had to and many times last night we carried the puck into the zone and set up our offense. I was not disappointed at all in our effort. If that goal by hanzel doesnt get called this is a completly different game. That was a huge momentum swinger and it showed big time. Im still out for TM’s head as i think he has nothing more to contribute to this team and we need someone else to get us to the next level. We also need to get some of our kids up here for the rest of the year since the playoffs are out of reach.
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jet Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:58 am
@BrokeKingsFan, so you not think that telling the team “we are quiting” might be the wrong message to send to such a young organization?
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:01 am
@BrokeKingsFan, They played good defense. The offense needs to be better (it didn’t start last night.) The power play needs to be better. I’m willing to give the kids a break, though, because after a while, failure to address inadequacies in any real way (besides shuffling players around) has to go to coaching.
Oh, and props to Quick. He didn’t see a lot of shots last night, but still played well. he couldn’t be expected to stop the two (one) he let in.
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rick Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:07 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, I agree with those who thought the Kings played well last night. I thought they had a lot of drive and energy – except for the horrendous power play. The issue last night was the lack of finishers on offense. We were in position to possibly score several times, but the guys who needed to finish just didn’t have the skill to do so. It is beyond frustrating to watch these guys work hard to get a quality shot, then simply not have the ability to bury it.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:14 am
@rick, If they weren’t consistently scoring fewer than two goals lately, I’d completely agree. That’s the only reason I have reservations. They did have more jump than in previous games, and seemingly more consistently.
Do we have a new coach yet? I am so tired of the dump and chase. The dump and chase works if you mix it up with a few clean entries, but every time just leads to the defense cheating back and clearing the zone. TM’s only adjustment is line changes, and I think he has tried every combination possible. He looks like a guy who is out of ideas.
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puck73 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:56 am
@#9, Last night wasnt dump and chase..it was called..Bryz stole 2 points !
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(on the tight Western Conference…) “It’s a dog fight every day. It feels like an 82-game playoff schedule. Every game you go in, it’s almost like (it) is a must-win. That’s the way you treat it. … You try to give your players enough rest, you try to make sure we’re prepared but every game is very valuable points.”
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yah seems like an 82 game regular season for us, i see nothing that resembles playoffs in our game at all, must be nice to be a yotes fan right now
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Pesus Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:45 am
@kennynakamoto,
Yup , all 12 of them
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As far as scoring goes… We need to really get this ball moving. Having lokti around was nice last night. I love his style, skills, and i think we should keep for atleast these next 2-3 games. How many oppurtunities did williams have last night? I dont know the official count, seemed like he had like atleast 14 shots TOWARDS the next, maybe 5-6 hit. We gotta bury that puck. Dusty had that nice two on 1 break, tried to cut to the middle.. NO DUSTY NO. JUST SHOOT IT at that point. Im sure Doughty has the green light, but someone needs to tell this kid to keep going and going. Everytime Doughty “turns and goes” he backs off defenders and always create a GREAT chance. He only does it a couple times a game, i want to see it a couple times a period. He is forsure getting his A game back, and i dont care what people have to say about his production.
Kompon should be gone, should have been a month ago, but serously. TM should have the chance to get him and his team out of this, but Kompon….can go.
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puck73 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:58 am
@Michael_DD8, Kompon should have been gone earlier this season but since Murray seems loyal to him it looks like both of them might get fired.
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yes, that call was complete BS, BUT the Kings still failed to get on the scoreboard. Most nights you have to score at least 2 or 3 goals to win a game. Kings are now only 2 games over .500…which is pathetic.
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That goal was NOT good…and I love our GM for rippin into the Toronto. Why is it you are fined when you say how you felt about a call? I think that should not happen. C’mon guys let’s start playing like we know how to play.
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If the NHL video review guys did not think that puck hit the stick, then they should review Xeno’s paradox (the ball never hits the wall because it can always go half the distance–since balls do hit walls, you get out of the mathematical paradox with these things called “common sense” or if you want to get technical, calculus).
Ridiculous call. I think Murray had it right: If they are going to make mistakes like this, then the review process is a complete waste of money.
From DL’s comments, anyone think he is on the hot seat? Should not be IMO but this team is sure having some problems scoring goals and, except for the back end and maybe undersized not super quick Loki and Moller, there are mainly grinders types on the horizon. Bummers.
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The effort the last 2-3 games has been good and that’s something the players should be proud of… leave everything on the ice and you won’t have any regrets.
Games like last night are going to happen when playing against an elite goalie capable of stealing a game(Briz always has our number for some reason). We have been on the other side of this as well (like Quick’s 50+ save effort against Detroit earlier this season) and these types of wins/losses seem to even out over the course of a season. Just keep playing with this type of effort and things will turn around.
Tippett’s quote… “We kept a lot of pucks to the outside…”, pretty much describes our offensive attack during this slump. We somehow need to find a way to take the puck to net more, get more quality shots from the middle of the ice and getting 2nd, 3rd rebound opportunities after the initial shot. It seems like most of our chances lately have been just one shot and that’s it.
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Looks alot like the view from St.Louis.
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wavesinair Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 3:02 pm
…and Dallas, Toronto, Nashville, Chicago, San Jose, Philadelphia…
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