Phoenix’s first goal tonight, by Martin Hanzal in the second period, was upheld after a lengthy video review — at least five minutes — and the Kings clearly believed that Hanzal knocked in the puck with a high stick. The Coyotes went on to score a second goal less than a minute later and won the game 2-0. Mike Murphy, the NHL’s senior vice president of hockey operations, told FSN’s Jim Fox that there was no conclusive replay that would have overturned the goal, and specifically that the crew in Toronto never saw the puck conclusively hit Hanzel’s stick and that all of the on-ice officials agreed on the goal call. After the game, Kings general manager Dean Lombardi and coach Terry Murray vehemently disagreed.
Lombardi said, speaking of Murphy, “When the guy in Toronto making the decisions on the goals, in Ottawa and the one tonight, wanted the G.M.’s job in L.A. and was not happy about not getting it, you have to assume you are going to get those type of calls. However, we have put ourselves in a position where these calls have a monumental effect on our season, and we’re going to have to find a way out of it ourselves.”
Lombardi’s reference was to the Kings’ Nov. 22 game at Ottawa, when on-ice officials waved off Ryan Smyth’s potential game-tying goal, with three seconds remaining in the third period, and the NHL’s video-review crew in Toronto did not rule it a good goal. Murray also expressed his frustration after the game.
MURRAY: “I don’t know why we have video replay in the National Hockey League. That’s all I can say. If the replay is there for review of goals and non-goals… I don’t know. You’ve got a guy who gets credit for the goal. He’s 6-foot-6, and the stick is up above his head. Matt Greene is 6-3, and he’s batting the puck down his his hand beside his ear, and the net is four feet high. It doesn’t add up. It makes no sense. No sense. How does it get called on the ice a goal, first of all, and then how does the replay hold it up? I don’t know. I don’t have an answer.”
Question: Did you get an explanation from the (on-ice) referee?
MURRAY: “They don’t come near you.”
These are good signs of emotion.. Hopefully it will drag on to the next games.
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Kingsation8 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
@Kingsation8, BTW, Mike Murphy JUST GOT TOLD!! ALL HAIL DL!
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Kingsfanone Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
@Kingsation8,
Deano laying some smack on Murphy! I love it!!
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Darrell Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:18 am
@Kingsation8, If I were DL, I would expect a fine from Bettman shortly.
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OneTimer Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:33 am
@Darrell,
I would gladly pay it for him.
Kwaz Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:36 am
@Darrell,
If we banned together and paid the likely upcoming fine to DL as fans it might send a good message to the team as well as an appropriate finger to Toronto. I for one would certainly be interested in contributing, but don’t have the organizational skills to get such a thing rolling.
ronso Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
@Kingsation8, A game like tonites with incorrect calls & overlong delays underscores the gross incompetence the NHL officiating system & personnel & the corruption of league management.(Yes YOU Colin Campbell!). If the NHL was a truly professional league with competent league officials instead of 5th rate hacks, they would have their own on ice cameras to make accurate calls instead of relying on whatever random angles happen to be available on whatever broadcast happens to be available, which is total bush league. The NHL management & incompetent officials make the league the laughingstock of professional sports. Tonight they changed the course of a game, causing a team which was totally outplayed to be awarded an undeserved victory.
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deadite77 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
@ronso, 100% agreement. Different rules for different players. Different rules for different teams.
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Naturallawyer Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
@ronso, look at the powerplay differentials for each team across the league. The Toronto Maple Leafs (shocking!) have the best differential, with 39 more powerplays than their opponents (nearly 1 per game). I’d buy that if they were a disciplined team, but they certainly aren’t…
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Ducks suck fatties Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:02 am
@ronso, I have been sayin that since they brought in video review (about the league having their own cameras)! And kudos to DL on callin them out!
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DY Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
@Kingsation8,
Murray should have thrown sticks on the ice and got himself ejected… that would have been showing emotion.
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You can’t blame the whole entire game on that one call. Yes, if that goes the other way, Kings might win the game. But you know what? They had six Power Plays. They had lots of chances. They lost 2-0. This wasn’t the game in Ottawa where the final play of the game was the one that screwed us over.
Terrible call, but Murray is still doing terribly behind the bench. He needs to go.
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tim Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:03 am
@Wally, yes you can
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kasey9 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:44 am
@Wally, So its TM fault we cant score? not the guys on the ice with the sticks that shoot the puck? i guess some team needs to bring back a player coach so they can try to score to so we can blame the coach when the team cant lol
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If Brown was dropping F-Bombs before, I don’t wanna know what guys will say about this…
I know if I was a player I’d be getting a call from the Commissioner, that’s for sure.
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Yeah good job DL and TM. Lets make excuses. We still didn’t SCORE.
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OneTimer Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:37 am
@Alen,
So … you rather they say: “Oh well. Bummer for us.”
This has nothing to do with whether WE did or didn’t score – it’s about geting the calls CORRECT. Which, btw, has cost us points this year (ALONG with not scoring.)
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Like their comments on it, but the Kings still need to score some goals on their own.
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Guess he won’t answer the phone when JF calls next time.
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Wow…DL calling out Mike Murphy…this is going to be interesting tomorrow.
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puck73 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
@RabidZiggy, When a guy like Dean runs smack, you know he is seething. Wow, I didnt know Mike Murphy wanted this job, thats news to me.
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demob Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
@puck73,
I’m sure there are alot of things that happen within the inner circles that you don’t know.
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puck73 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
@demob, True, but very disapointing that an ex King is pissed off because he didnt get the GM.S job. Hey Murph…get over it !
How about scoring some goals ourselves
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Mike Murphy is a joke. The NHL owning the Coyotes is a conflict of interest as well.
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The puck scored tonight was a lot (and I mean a lot) higher than the one Smyth scored (but didn’t) in Ottawa.
If the NHL wants to think it is cool by having instant replay, then it must, and I mean must, have the ability to provide undisputable evidence for each goal at every arena.
This is where the NFL gets it right hands down.
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Wow. The usually calm DL and TM. Wow.
They’re irate like us.
But it may bite us in the butt more with the accusation against Mike Murphy. I never heard of that before….
But this shows how ridiculous these two games’ calls have been to any one of us trying to be objective.
It cost us bigtime both times.
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And I don’t buy they don’t come near you. I see other coaches yell and scream until they come over. You don’t think his players would have come out revved up if he would have gotten tossed with a good tirade?
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just my opinion Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:33 am
@Hockey101, Hmm, you must not remember the incident when Robinson was dissed by the refs.
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OneTimer Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:42 am
@Hockey101,
He did. I saw TM blatantly mouth “Oh F*** off!” after hearing the ref say something back, and he was looking directly at the ref. Now granted the ref wasn’t standing against the half-wall at our bench – but they were trading comments and there’s NO question the ref heard him loud and clear.
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Cry Baby Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 6:01 am
@Hockey101, Are you kidding, when this happens the vast majority of refs stay clear of the coach!
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like the comment by Dean. the boys played hard tonight. just didn’t get the bounces but if we can replicate that effort the ship will be righted.
Poor officiating tonight. how about we at least get a ref that can speak english?
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demob Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
@Doug in Sacramento,
Poor officiating??? we had 6 PP’s. One horrible call…even Toronto got it wrong. How about decent game bad results, something we’ve become accustomed to.
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LVKINGS88 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
@Doug in Sacramento, Damn French Canadiens.
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King John Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
@LVKINGS88,
They’re not French Canadian in Toronto. Most of Canada is English-speaking. Quebec is the main French Canadian province.
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King John Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
@King John, Oh, it looks like you’re talking about the ref.
Nice to see TM and DL get upset about something. It’s about time.
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how about being irate over the way we played and not some stupid over the net goal!!! We got much bigger problems…..Oh I get it, it’s the old red herring trick! SSSSHHHHHH!!!!
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John Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
@crashin’ da net,
HA! Yeah, we played poorly…
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Crap, even in the heat of the moment, it’s a tactical error to vent your wrath against the NHL. Look at what went down in the Burrows-Auger incident. They know Auger is terrible, they won’t give him playoff games — but they close ranks right quick.
Dang it all.
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thanks for killing all future close call games from now on, DL
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oahukingzfan Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
@Darren, Right on the mark with that one D! Lol
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Dom Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
@oahukingzfan, NO. It’s his RIGHT and DUTY to call him out. It’s BS and it needs to be addressed. Hats off to DL.
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SplattDaddy Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
@Darren, We haven’t “gotten” any close calls this season, so whats the point of continuing to say nothing ?
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deadite77 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
@Darren, When is the last close call the Kings ever got? Gretzky’s high stick on Gilmour?
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BringBackTheShieldJersey Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
@deadite77, Hold on now, Gilmour shouldn’t've even been in the game after his his head-butt.
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LAPD line Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 8:39 am
@deadite77, That waved off “kicked in” goal we got in our favor against Vancouver in the playloffs last year is one of the few questionable calls that I can remember going our way.
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I agree with the others here.
Yes, we got shafted on that call but put the damn puck in the opponents net more than them and you won’t have to piss and moan about non-calls!
I am sick of the canned answers post-game, every few days, get your act together LA!
Hustle your hides off, score more goals, allow less and do this!
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King John Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
@Barrie G,
Yeah, but we did play well and needed a break to help turn the losing streak around; instead it seems like the NHL is conspiring against us. OR we’re cursed. That’s what’s upsetting.
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At least Bubble Vision was funny.
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Why does DL think those two calls have such a monumental effect on the season? We are in 12th place in year two. Right where we thought they’d be. The second year is harder. Plenty of time to get it going in the right direction. Where are the owners again?
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I’m glad I’m in hawaii…. I can take a loss like this. The boys played hard tonite. To bad for the bad call, because it give dl a smokescreen to cover up the glaring need of this team, a proven scorer! Kopi is burnt out trying to shoulder the load by himself. We can grind with the best of them. We just can’t score. Bryz did outstandind tonite, gotta give him that. Aloha u guys.
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ok guys dont worry we going to be 9th at the end of this season u watch i thought at least 7th but then this happen so 9th no worries u guys watch oh wait that mean we didnt make it oh well better off next year
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Eric K Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
@KingsFanFTL, Do you read your posts before you submit them?
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KingsFanFTL Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
@Eric K, yea i do sorry if u couldnt understand me dont get why u have ur attitude with me
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King John Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
@KingsFanFTL, Are you texting or don’t know English well? At least please use some punctuation so we can follow what you contribute.
LW Anybody? Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
@KingsFanFTL, Poor grammar, dude. That’s why. Most people on this board are over 13 years old, so they have a hard time understanding wen u tak 2 them.
jim Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
@KingsFanFTL, I think 9th is stretching a little.
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Ooooh that will be a hit to DL’s wallet by the league.
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Phoenix got the call because they are owned my the N.H.L
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I know what will solve this!!! Bring back FOX blue puck!!!
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TinaBeana Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
@pr0cess, Never!
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Buster Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 1:21 am
@pr0cess,
It might be a good idea if ONLY used for instant replay, NOTHING ELSE: blue if it’s good (or below the crossbar/behind the line) and red for no-goal (either above the crossbar or not 100% over the line). This way we won’t be able to see the fans go into epileptic shock from watching too much of it.
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WEAK argument for ANOTHER loss
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It sounds like we have a couple of guys very worried about their future with the Kings. It is going to be just like it was during the last major shake up. Tayor fired Andy to save his own ass and nothing got better so he was gone.
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puck73 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
@jim, Good point, I am sure a lot of people on this site forgot how that went down.
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LOL…up yours Murphy! Of course they should’ve won the game regardless of this call, but it doesn’t excuse them blowing it. Hope they don’t lighten DL’s wallet too much for it! At least for one night, I’m back on your side Deano! Now, time to do something about this team!
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I hate this quote from Lombardi. Don’t whine and make accusations, do something to get this team back on track. Whining is our job. Yes, horrible call on the goal. Then again we didn’t score any goals, legit or not. Get over it.
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Darren Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
@Jason4Kings,THIS.
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HockeyMariner88 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
@Jason4Kings, They asked him to comment on the play, so he made a comment. He also finished the comment by saying the team put themselves in a bad spot by allowing these calls to have such a big impact, so I don’t see him using this as any excuse. He’s simply calling them out for a terrible decision, and rightfully so.
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Jason4Kings Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
@HockeyMariner88,
It’s the accusation that the guy does it on purpose, that’s what is objectionable. Even if it’s true it’s classless and it hurts the league and the sport i love to have GMs saying things like that to the media. You can disagree, but i don’t like it at all.
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I feel like Randy Quaid in Major League II…..”back up the truck….back it up!”
Deano if we can’t score we can’t win
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Good for Dean. The video capabilities of the NHL are pathetic. He said exactly what I was thinking. The puck goes right by Greene’s ear on the way down. I am the exact same height as Greene. I know exactly how much I have to bend my knees to get my shoulder below the cross bar. I have to bend them to the extent that my butt is lower than my knees. Greene’s knees were probably bent such that his shoulders were 5″ lower than when he is standing straight up. Given 4+” for skate height, his shoulders were right about 5’8″ off the ground and the puck went by his ear.
The guys in Toronto aren’t stupid, they know how to do these sort of calculations. Something stinks on the call.
Goal #2 doesn’t happen if goal #1 doesn’t go in.
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puck73 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
@ViperHockey, Mike Murphy, an ex King has a an axe to grind, wow very disapointed in that jerk.
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jess Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
@ViperHockey,
While we all hope it puts more pressure on toronto to make better calls in the future it still does not excuse the zero goal mentality from the kings.
Still would have been 2-1 yotes
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xeropoint Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:43 am
@jess, I keep hearing it would’ve been 2-1… how do you figure that? How does calling the play right, keeping the score tied at 0-0, equate to the kings scoring a goal and allowing 2 more after that?
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JLVIV Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 6:51 am
@xeropoint,
I made a mistake on that but the bottom line is the yotes put one legal puck in the net last night and we put zero in the net so 1-0 yotes.
Bring back The Briggs!!! (and fire Kompom)
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Let’s add to the list, from the recent past:
Player covers the puck with his glove inside the blue paint. Automatic Penalty shot – no Call. Ref standing 4 ‘ away.
Tonight, Bryz covers the puck behind the goal line with his glove. The puck got there NOT by shot or rebound. By Rule, automatic delay of game call. NOT called.
Puck loose behind goalie. Player shoves it against back of goalie’s leg pad. Goalie’s leg slides back across the goal line. From overhead camera, goalie slides leg forward, puck magically appears in blue paint. No goal is the decision. But, where was it? If it i not under the goalie’s pad behind the goal line, where was it? I thought they outlawed Harry Potter’s invisibility cloak like what, five years ago?
And I’m not even going to get into Doughty getting mugged center ice in Montreal last year.
Props to Dean for blowing the whistle on the League’s (and specifically Murphy’s) vendetta against the Kings. If Campbell or Bettman make a stink about Lombardi’s comment, his answer should be “OK, let’s go to the video tape.”
Highlite crew – start cutting the package together now.
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jim Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
@IceGuy, Just sour grapes! This team does not have enough talent to complete at a high level in the NHL
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Cynic Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:01 am
@IceGuy, I’m defending Ice Guy here.
If you think it’s sour grapes, then offer us the antithesis to his facts. List the times in the last year we have had breaks go FOR us.
As far as your talent comment, you obviously didn’t watch the last game against San Jose. THAT was a CUP CONTENDER by a MILE! We DOMINATED the Sharks all game. That was this season. They are fully capable. Respectfully disagree with your comments Jim.
Great avatar pic though.
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Why does it matter??? They lost 2 – 0 not 1 – 0. Should be more irate over the turnover that led to the 2ND goal!
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King John Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
@Alcindor, The two goals were connected.
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Kingstane9 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 4:03 am
@Alcindor,it’s more like the refs decision led to the 2nd goal
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Jason4Kings Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 7:39 am
@Kingstane9,
Martinez got caught up ice, which led to a 2 on 1, and Quick got beat by the shooter. Any other explanation is an excuse.
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After watching tonight’s game, I am sure we will miss the playoffs. The ducks will make it, and at least I’ll have them to route against. Im sick of this crap!
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King John Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
@Chuck, The NHL allows at most one team from Southern California to make the playoffs. Since the Ducks are on the upswing, the Kings therefore must implode. Just sayin’
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The reaction by Lombardi & Murray may be just the impetus this team needs to get back on track. I think the players reaction is going to be to rally around & bring the club back.
When you see your bosses getting upset FOR YOU, it can have advantageous results.
Sure, DL & TM may get fined, but watch the players react to this. It could be a turning point in the maturation of this team.
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jim Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
@Kingsfanone, Don’t think so but I sure hope you are right and I’m wrong.
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puck73 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
@Kingsfanone, I hope your right too. I bet brother Phil is pissed at Mike Murphy as well !
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Kingsfanone Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
@puck73,
Yes he is. But how do all 4 on ice refs call that a good goal in the first place? Helen Keller could’ve called that a high stick.
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Dave's a Killer Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:41 am
@Kingsfanone, The other referees did not call it a good goal. This is a misrepresentation of the rules. In this situation, they can only tell the official who made the call whether or not they saw it other than he did. From their positions on the ice, there is no way they could determine if the original call was wrong. Look, it happens at light speed and the call has to be made. The failure to get this one right is clearly the replay team in Toronto.
LVKINGS88 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
@Kingsfanone, That’s what I was thinking,it’s us(Kings) against them(refs,league),hey at least it’s something.
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Side Note: Lokti looked real good tonight. Keep him up. IMHO he will earn his keep.
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Jason4Kings Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
@SplattDaddy,
Just a little more strength and he’s gonna excel. I also think he should stay up.
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In a game where the Kings dominated everywhere except in goals…You can blame the referees but you still have to score goals…36 shots against Bryzgoalie and no one in front of him…Doughty playing Doffense and there is absolutely no imagination on the power play…Kopi only 4 shots with no traffic…did someone say 0 for 6 tonight and 0 for the last 19. 6 goals in the last 3 games against so you can’t fault the defense much there… Change up the plan here…try something other than 2 points and Kopi at the top of the left circle. Now for the worse news…each one of the losses against the Western Conference teams are 4 point swings…make that up? Something has to change…Sad to watch this season totally slip away….
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King John Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
@kngfan004,
I remember many times that Kings were in front of Bryzgalov, but nothing went in.
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I’m glad they bashed the refs and Murphy.
Even if there is a fine, it’s worth it.
Maybe it’ll be the turning point to the season.
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Dom Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
@Kingfan, exactly. I’ll take anything that shakes this Team up right now. We’re 5 points out – totally doable. BUT somebody needs to take charge and DL called out Mike (6 years KINGS captain!!!!) for a BS call. Hats off. Let’s get some positive momentum here…!!!
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So is Mike Murphy available? If he has the balls to cheat us out of goals he would have the huevos to fire a coach when he goes 2 – 12.
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Was the call horrible? YES
Pretty childish by DL though
Playoffs last year against Vancouver. The questionable review about the kicking motion of Sedin in game 3? Vancouver fans were whining about Mike Murphey making that call as well, because he had said previously that the Kings winning the cup would be “good for the NHL”
DL didn’t speak up then…
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HockeyMariner88 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
@McDonalds, Big difference between a questionable call, and an obvious one.
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Jason4Kings Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
@McDonalds,
I agree with you. Some people here are like these comments, not me. Childish, whiny, lame. Kings played a little better tonight but need to find a way to win.
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Jason4Kings Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
@Jason4Kings,
I meant to say “some people like” not “are like”. (need edit function)
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DLB Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
@Jason4Kings, They’re not classy like you with your insults?
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Jason4Kings Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 7:42 am
@DLB,
What insult do you speak of?
Jason4Kings Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 10:20 am
@DLB,
Oh i get it….you didn’t see my correction. I wasn’t calling everyone here childish and whiny, i was calling Dean’s comment those things.
King John Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
@McDonalds,
The NHL needs Phoenix to do well, so the team will attract fans back into the stands.
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You want emotion from a Coach…there’s an unemployed one named Gretzky…let’s see what he can do for the rest of the year!
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puck73 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
@demob, He is awful, he and Melrose got in Mcnalls ear and traded away a lot of our skill players for muckers and plumbers…that worked out well, didnt it? Also dont bother trying to defend those guys because I will hit you with fact after fact until you say UNCLE !
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Matt F Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:18 am
@puck73, Read McNall’s book, the reason he got rid of all the high skilled players was because he couldn’t make payroll anymore.
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poe Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
@demob, Are you for real? What did Gretzky do as a coach for the Yotes? Once Tippett took over they began to bloom
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puck73 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
@poe, Exactly, just because the guy was probably the greatest player to ever play in the NHL doesnt mean he will make a good coach…and he wasnt. Also, he was, and is not a good player personel evaluator either.
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demob Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
@demob,
I said emotion…not make trade decisions; sometimes a change is what is needed…I know he isn’t the long term solution but at this point this team needs EMOTION…or we can keep Murray and battle Edmonton for last place.
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puck73 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
@demob, I hear ya man, but believe me, this is not the guy that you want in charge.
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Called that high stick during live action, but also called that the play would not be overturned. When I saw the replay from the camera in the corner clearly showing that the stick was at least 8 inches above the bar, I thought I would be wrong. Turns out that I was not, which gave me a hell of a good laugh.
For sure a momentum changer, but we took that back and lost the game in other areas.
I love DL’s comments though.
Go Kings!
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One question, DL and TM why did it take this long for u two get get pissed and emotional (like you really care) NOW that it’s too late?
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puck73 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
@happylappy, it may very well be…but I hope not.
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tim Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:14 pm
@puck73, after all this losing we are 5 points out of a playoff spot. if dl would make a move we could still easily get in!
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For all four on ice ref’s to say it was a good goal is ridiculous. None of them saw it. They simply joined ranks with the ref who made the initial call. Toronto is supposed to be neutral and they’re supposed to step in and see that the right thing is done. If Murphy was up for the Kings job and didn’t get it, he has a conflict of interest and shouldn’t be in the position of having anything to do with the reviews. If any fines are to be levied, they should be against the ref’s and Murphy.
Once again, the Kings are getting the short end of the stick with a call, and it isn’t fair, but we lack leadership on this team, and that really needs to be corrected. Too many passes, not enough shots, and not enough people crashing the net.
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puck73 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
@Peter90210, Mike Murphy..ol #7..what a pompous pantywaist.
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Dave's a Killer Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:49 am
@Peter90210, See my reply up above (kingsfanone). Of course they didn’t see it. Therefore they could not overturn the original call. Toronto saw it but…
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nobody has a hot hand on the ice this team is dead………….
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Nice…DL going the route of ‘Raider-Fan’….conspiracy theories….the refs are against us…that argument is for losers. Put the Fuc**ing puck in the net and we’re not talking about this crap.
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zeus,kop,brown, shall i go on……….last year was luck??????????????
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oh everyone else got better..thats it!
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good nite!
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Totally agree with TM on this one. We all saw the peplay and it was obvious the yotes player hit the puck with the high stick, but they didn’t or didn’t want to? BS
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Kingstane9 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
@Kingstane9, ups..replay lol
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Totally surprised at DL’s reaction.Is he saying that the call might be dirty? I thought it was just because they’re idiots in Toronto. I hope he plans on getting his hands dirty also, because the Kings are in a situation where those calls are monumental.
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Did the replay officials ACTUALLY say they never saw the puck hit Handzal’s stick? That leaves my jaw on the floor… compounded by the fact that handzal got credit for the goal, so obviously everyone else saw it hit his stick. And the photos on yahoo show, as would be expected by a stick hitting a puck near Greene’s ear, that the stick was about a FOOT over the crossbar. Really, all those replay guys should be fined and fired.
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Michael_DD8 Reply:
January 20th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
@bbb7,
Very gooood point. It shouldnt be his goal then if they cant see it hit his stick…
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Kingstane9 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:01 am
@Michael_DD8, indeed
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uknojata Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 1:22 am
@bbb7, excellent point.
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6 Sino Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 7:24 am
@bbb7, They couldn’t see the puck hit the stick, from the 1 camrea angle they felt they needed to overturn the call. Other camera angles clearly showed that it hit Handzal’s stick.
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Classless. Your team sucks
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Here’s where I sent my complaint:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/feedback.htm
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Cynic Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:22 am
@Will Hutchison, I sent my response in, even if it was just to vent.
“I’m a Kings fan, I’m an objective person. I don’t ask for favoritism, just fair play. Mike Murphy & Colin Campbell should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for not reviewing that goal properly. Ryan Smyth has a goal disallowed that would have tied the game with 3 seconds left, stick MUCH LOWER than Hanzal’s tonight, and it was ruled NO GOAL yet tonight, THAT was a GOAL? Even TSN reported the obvious.
The bias against the Los Angeles Kings is simply getting out of control. There are MANY instances of non-calls/bad calls going against the Kings in record numbers lately and short of a conspiracy theory, I’m not sure why. What happened to the honor and honesty of this game? It’s what makes the NHL stand out over all other professional sports! Now it’s beginning to fail miserably. Bad and missed calls happen. OK, I can totally accept that. What happened tonight shouldn’t be allowed in the USHL let alone the NHL. The 4 refs have to make a call with their eyes and no cameras. Toronto though has NO excuse. Their ridiculous judgement changed the game. Even Hanzal said he didn’t think it was a goal! If there is any bias for ANY team in this league by ANY official, you are single-handedly RUINING the most HONORABLE and HONEST sport on this planet.
Fix it. Please. For the sake of the game.”
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Luis Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 1:04 am
@Cynic, Amen brother
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Buster Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 1:53 am
@Cynic,
I wasn’t quite as kind as you were. I have a feeling that their server may burn up from all I learned from the Don Rickles Charm School.
In other words, unprintable here.
The nicest thing I wrote is (and, yes, I closed it with this line):
I hope I can calm down long enough to write my sermon for Sunday morning’s services.
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locdog1 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 1:59 am
@Cynic, Yes! I agree..
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I love you guys. You will always be my favorite team and i will never boo you. keep trying here.
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”It was really close,” Hanzal said. ”I was surprised they called it a goal. I thought it was going to be a high stick, but it is what it is and I’ll take whatever I can get. I had exactly the same thing called in Colorado before Christmas, but they didn’t count it.”
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coyotes/articles/2011/01/20/20110120phoenix-coyotes-win-los-angeles-kings.html#ixzz1BegkqVHy
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Luis Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 1:03 am
@bmova, on the slide show, the 9th picture clearly shows that the stick was above the crossbar by at least a foot. Can’t wait to hear what the league has to say about the missed call. My guess is probably nothing.
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CB14 Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 4:10 pm
@Luis, That Picture would be the prosecution’s first and only witness in the case against Mike Murphy and the NHL for completely screwing over the Kings.
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I’m glad to see DL and Murray express some real emotion when the boys get screwed. The season is not yet over and we still have a team that is capable of being world beaters, I just don’t know what the problem with them is…All I can say is that as a passionate Kings fan I started the season on a high an am now at a low I thought was less possible than them winning the cup
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Kwaz Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 12:42 am
@Kwaz,
They can still turn it around though!
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We can complain all we want. But you have to get over it to win in this league. And please remember not all of our shots on goal have to come from the circles. Drive to the net and play with some pride, passion , and power or soon we will be the west coast islanders!
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That was the worst call each and everyone of those refs should be fired. Karma is a botch watch all of then get hit witha puck in their damn face
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DL and Terry may be 100% right, but that is a sign of a very desperate organization. A much different response than what we got after Ottawa in November. We’re in serious trouble.
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Gratz to DL for having the courage to stand up to the league about something thats obviously been bothering him for a while. This is now a public feud that will certainly get him disciplined, but may have huge ramifications on the other end as well. Regardless, this will be the biggest story in the NHL in the days to come.
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How could they possibly have awarded that 1st goal to Columbus when there was no way to see the puck, but award this one when we all saw a replay of it above the net?
This stinks to high heaven.
I have always thought the officiating was crap, but the revues are almost worse.
I’m disappointed that the fans didn’t litter the ice with feces after that call.
We played a strong game defensively and got shafted.
No, we didn’t score on 6 power plays, and the case against Kompon has been settled, but damn if that call didn’t feel like the knife in the back.
Greene, next time, just lay out the guy in front and we won’t need a revue.
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really stupid comment from a smart man. this makes the Kings look so Pathetic, not like they needed any help with that lately.
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I think it’s more Murphy is over-compensating for being accused of being biased FOR the Kings by the Canuck homers during last year’s playoffs.
hockeynews.com has a great pic:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2011-01-21/hanzals-disputed-goal-helps-coyotes-beat-kings
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Gary Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 7:25 am
@Gary, EDIT: sportingnews.com has the great pic. My bad.
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Gary Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 7:26 am
@Gary, Maybe they need to have the still photographers upload there pics to Toronto.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:38 am
@Gary,
As an amateur photographer, I have dreamed of taking a picture of such clarity and game significance.
–Can’t tell you how jealous I am of the photographer…
–Can’t tell you how embarrassed the NHL Video Review Booth in Toronto is right now! This is their worst nightmare, a decision which is incorrect which determines the outcome of the game.
Too bad that Terry Murray is going to be suspended later today for his comments about Mike Murphy. The NHL will have to issue a statement deploring TM’s statement, yet apologizing for the mistake. They will say the call on the ice stood because there was no conclusive evidence to overturn it…
John Shannon:
It’s Unfortunate…
Teams control the camera, save the overhead view…
Yada Yada about the angle and Matt Greene’s glove not being hit…
The handheld corner camera was blocked by Vrbada’s head…
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 9:41 am
@Gary,
Wow.
John Shannon really threw DL and the Kings under the bus on this…
–He should be looking in the room for the losing streak…
–He has no integrity/ DL needs to be fined…
All I have to say is unreal.
We should send Clifford to pay a visit to the guys in TOR.
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Here was the Smyth reviewed non-goal on Nov 22nd. It was called no goal on the ice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j-F2e2uplA
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King John Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 2:41 pm
@Gary,
That was certainly lower in height than Phoenix’s goal.
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This is DL trying to do a Rex Ryan did for the Jets….deflect the negative attention off the Kings players and their poor play and put it on him…..not a bad move, but doesn’t change the fact Kings need to find a way to hit the twine…by the way, if Toronto and Murphy say there’s no conclusive evidence Hanzel’s stick hit the puck, how in the world does he get credit for the goal then?
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[img]http://i54.tinypic.com/rkzgw5.jpg[/img]
that’s a good goal and the The earth is flat
And did you ever see an oyster walk upstairs?
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