Today was a “maintenance” day for Matt Greene, and Terry Murray said he was hopeful that Greene would be back on the ice tomorrow. Murray did not commit to going with today’s practice lines in Thursday’s game, saying only that he wanted to get a different look in practice. More notes and quotes to come…
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Greene = not traded… makes me happy, but still sad at the same time.
maybe management is making a run at Sean Couturier!!!!!
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Jamer Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
@lafan13, YEa yea yea. U johnny come lately’s think that the Kings are just fine. Yea 4 goals in 4 games and 1 win in the last 8 games are OK. Without a trade and spending some money, this season is OVER FOLKS. Wake up and smell the old hockey sock. What game were you watching last night? 2-0 to the Ducks. Look objectively at the Kings and you will smell that something is rotten this year.&/8 game loses they allowed over 27 goals JJ is -23. Trade Brown/Simpson and JJ for a winger that can score!!!!!!!!
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Stuart Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
@Jamer, is Simpson at MAN? Maybe ONT? Smithers, who is that man? Um, that’s Simpson sir, he plays wing somewhere in the organization… TRADE HIM!
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Deke'r Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
@Jamer, Guess you can watch the Ducks now.
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get it together guys…
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The Kings are going to continue to struggle until Poni comes back and they add a top 6 left wing. Right now they have 3 guys playing out of position to fill the left side. It is too much to ask. The loss of Poni and Parse have been detrimental to their success.
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lafan13 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
@JB,
poni yes…. parse, we could argue about that all day
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Bill M. Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
@lafan13, Ok, lets argue. My Argument: regardless of the debate over the effectiveness of Parse, it’s still one more hole we have to fill on the position where our depth is weakest. We are playing rookies with little or no NHL experience, we are playing people on their off sides. We aren’t really missing Parse, specifically, it’s that we are missing two left wingers when we don’t have two left wingers to spare.
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Ersberg Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
@Bill M., Parse is essentially a rookie, is still unproven, has low point totals, and is a stop-gap at best. How can you argue that he’s earned a permanent roster spot?
He’s not at all a good player, average at best.
kylecliffordfan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
@JB, Yeah.. Who cares about Parse he has really never done anything for the kings and probably never will.
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puck73 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
@kylecliffordfan, I like you Kyle, but your wrong. 4 pts in 4 games and he did that on a groin that was not totally healed, in other words..he rushed back, overcompensated, and hurt his hip and now will be out till February. But more importantly, he opened up the ice for Brown and Kopi, they were both flying out there with space no less when Parse was in there for only 4 games. Also, Parse was a plus 13 last season and he didnt play on the 1st line like he was going to this season. Bottopm line..you and I agree on Clifford, and are worlds apart on Parse.
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it seems like once the geezer line stopped producing there was almost no production and here we are….
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And how about grabbing Fro back from NY? I’m sure Torts wouldn’t put up a fight. Not the best solution, but we would have someone (or rather anyone) to play the left side.
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lafan13 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
@Luuuuuuuuuuc!,
So your saying we trade someone for fro, when we could of just re-signed him instead ????
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Luuuuuuuuuuc! Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
@lafan13,
I would rather not, but what other options are out there?
I never was a Fro hater though. TM would definitely need to get on board.
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lafan13 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
@Luuuuuuuuuuc!,
Im sure there are options availible…. its just that the price isnt right for our mgmnt.
I think a moller call up, would be better suited then a fro trade.
Luuuuuuuuuuc! Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
@lafan13,
And it’s a 1 year contract without a NTC/NMC.
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lafan13 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
@Luuuuuuuuuuc!,
how about kings sign me instead…
I can stand behind the net and do rap arounds all night and play 0 defence…
Hell, i’ll even lace em up and play for free. DL would be excited since id have a 0$ cap hit… Im just the kinda player hes looking for.
Luuuuuuuuuuc! Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
@lafan13,
I’m not buying it bud. And D isn’t our bigger problem right now. I would love to see Moller up, but that ain’t happening either.
Kind of the response I figured on getting though.
TM is rearranging deck chairs man…
we need a sniper, to beat that horse dead once and for all. the ducks got speed, man, u gotta give ‘em that.
but working with what we’ve got: until JJ and DD start making clean, swift outlets and a line with SOME scoring touch can maintain control in the o-zone (esp below hash marks, i.e. cycle) we’re going to be stuck in neutral.
to be fair, we gotta get some bounces, too.
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dean lombardi is the worst, he will never make a trade to help this club out
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lafan13 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
@Randell,
He’s not that bad…. he did create a very good team via draft pics, something no other kings GM has done….
So to come out and say hes the worst, is not really a logical assesment. Emotions do get high on slumps, but Fireing everyone, and going into rebuilding mode wont do anything possitive for us….
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backchecker Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
@lafan13,
so mr rational how close has dl been to the cup with minnesota phil san jose and his 15 plus years
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VanKingsFan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
@backchecker, The list of cup winning GM’s is very short… many of the greats have no silverware to speak of
lafan13 Reply:
December 1st, 2010 at 9:59 am
@backchecker,
That doesnt mean anything man….
You dont have to already have won a cup to win one.
VanKingsFan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
@Randell, Excellent post! Lots of information here, and including your research was a nice touch
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backchecker Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
@VanKingsFan, well he certainly is not one of the greats and when i hire someone as does any organization they look at a track record
his shows 1 round maybe 2
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VanKingsFan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
@backchecker, Your right, he doesnt have the high level results. But I look at his methods, and his processes and I really like what he does 90% of the time.
very Dan Marino like if I may. Excellent at many things, tons of regular season success, extremely smart, but no playoff or superbowl success
puck73 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
@Randell, Lets bring back Melrose and Mcnall..I am sure that will make you happy. And while were at it, maybe we can ask Tony Robbins to come out and motivate the players like old times! Ya know, I would love to see a crook like Mcnall try and navigate his way through a 59 million dollar salary cap…That rotten bastard would fail miserably.
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One of Brown, Doughty, Johnson, or Greene should be sitting the next game as far as I’m concerned. Don’t know why Terry is in love with the concept of not sending a message, and racking up L’s. It concerns me how little urgency he actually has. Our season is falling apart quickly.
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VanKingsFan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
@Nyck, Woah! watch that knee of yours, its making this repetitive jerking motion.
I wouldn’t be opposed to sitting Greene for a game, but you dont healthy scratch your Captain and/or three of your 4 best players.
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Blah blah blah…JJ sucks….DD sucks…..TM sucks…..DL sucks….Not much originality going on here. Let’s take a look at some of the real issues:
1. Dwight King looks like Sasha Baron Cohen;
2. Heidi Androl, as hot as she is, appears to have man-hands;
3. Davis Drewiske looks like the love child of Paul Rudd and Rob Lowe. Also, I wish he would change his name to “David.”;
4. When Smyth gets checked along the boards, he withers up and lays there until the puck is back in the defensive zone; and
5. The real reason the Kings have been playing so poorly of late is because of the obnoxious a-holes who wave and talk on their cell phones after a Kings game at home when Patrick Oneal is interviewing Jim Fox. I can’t even watch the postgame anymore because of these losers.
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rontheking Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
@Katy Perry,
Oh no you did not just go there with the Heidi Androl man-hands!
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VanKingsFan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
@Katy Perry,
1. In the face or on the ice??? Could be both
2. I think Heidi is okay, but i think her rating goes way up simply because she is on TV and associated with hockey
3. How about Davis Dre? or Davis Whiskey? I like those better
4. You are not allowed to criticize Smyth on the basis that he is the nicest guy in hockey. PLus he deserves those rest periods after the beating he has taken for his team and country.
5. We don’t get the broadcasts in Canada….
5.
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Jason Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
@Katy Perry,
Heidi also wears weird clothes.
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holly Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
@Katy Perry, So… in other words, Davis is a beautiful man.
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puck73 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
@Katy Perry, Couldnt agree more. They shouldnt hold Kings live outside where all these John Doe losers are trying to get there mug on tv. I dont blame “kings fan” as much as I blame Fox Sports for this 3rd grade mentality talk show outside Staples…we dont need to see losers in the background distracting, and ruining succinct analysis from real pro’s.
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Throw this idea out there into Kings land. How about trying Brandon Kozun on the left side, he seems to be doing just as well in Manchester as well with Moller..?
Forget a trade since DL seems to be standing ground on what the team has.
TM doing his normal musical line changes, which sometimes can be hard to keep up with, because 1/4 of the way through the game he changes up things.
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VanKingsFan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
@lv is the way, I don’t like this idea. It would be another case of trying to convert a RW to the LW side. Might work, but why continue to mess with guys positions.
it really sucks that Loktionov wasn’t a natural LW…
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Bill M. Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
@VanKingsFan, thought Kozun was a left wing…did I read that wrong somewhere?
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Bill M. Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
@Bill M., Ok, you are right. He’s a right winger.
rontheking Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
@lv is the way,
i like that idea. kozun should get a chance since he is a scorer and fast on his skates. why not? he couldn’t do any worse than some of these other guys….
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holly Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
@rontheking, He’s also small and young, I’d hate to see another freak injury like Loktionov’s and have him out of service for the rest of the season.
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Just wait until Tyler Toffoli is here, 24 g and 17 a in 27 games
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Keeper Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
@brandyn, WOW! Awesome stats!
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Bill M. Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
@brandyn, He’s a center. remind me again what we are going to do with all these centers?
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VanKingsFan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
@Bill M., Bill you must have a misprinted PLayer guide or something, Tyler is a winger
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holly Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
@VanKingsFan, He’s listed by the Kings and NHL as a center. But he’s listed by HF and Hockeydb as a right wing.
VanKingsFan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
@holly, Really? I was going off of the 67′s website and the OHL website. Shoots R, RW.
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backchecker Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
@VanKingsFan, your comparison to dan marino i can not comment I dont follow or know any sports but HOCKEY Having said that i noticed you wished that Kozun was a left winger I wish deano had drafted or traded for a left winger my wish is much easire and doable
holly Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
@VanKingsFan, Yep. Most of the stories out of the draft state to something to the effect of “Kings drafted center Tyler Toffoli”
http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail.htm?dpid=2277
Odd.
jayhay Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
@brandyn, whatever he is, he’s NOT a WJ National Team player.
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VanKingsFan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
@jayhay, I saw that … i was SHOCKED
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jayhay Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
@VanKingsFan,
and Berube went to the summer camp but was the only goalie NOT invited back.
i guess Deslauries isnt having that great of a year (havent seen his #’s), although, for a team light on experience, thats a tough blue line to crack. i believe their only 3 returnies are Dmen.
GO LINDEN VEY!!! our only hope!
brandyn Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
@brandyn, whatever he is, he is impressive, someone in our organization who can actually score and is actually 6 foot tall…
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jayhay Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
@brandyn,
ha. good call on the 6 foot.
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kings fans :
It has been since 1967 that the kings joined they have not won the cup as yet but i to think this is the year LOL OOOPS maybe next year oooops maybe another 43 years LOL
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Nitrohockey Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
@backchecker, Well, you could jump on the Chicago bandwagon, or just wait and see who wins it this year and jump on that one if you don’t like the Kings drought. Many of those years were spent blowing up a team, hoping for the quick fix, the “win now” attitude, and left us with no future. Now, we have a real chance to be a dominant team for many years to come, not just a flash in the pan. Anaheim built a win now team and it paid off in 2007, but what have they done lately? Where’s Toronto? St. Louis? Vancouver? We’ve waited this long for one, and I don’t want to stop there! Let’s have a little more patience before we pull the trigger on blowing this up and starting a long rebuilding process. Again.
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puck73 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
@Nitrohockey, I dig you man.
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Try Kozun-Kopi-Brown. No really. Seriously.
I know Kozun is inexperienced. I know he is small, that he won’t be a physical presence or play great defense.
I don’t care. Kopi and Brown can already provide those things. Kozun provides the SPEED. Kopi needs a winger with wheels who can join him at full speed on the rush, because that will put defenders on their heels and open up space.
Kozun is still missing a lot of things that other guys can provide. But the first line doesn’t need those things. The first line needs someone with SPEED and a nose for open ice and shooting areas, and Kozun fits that description as well as anybody.
Most people see Kopitar playing slow. I see him slowing down to accommodate wingers who can’t match his speed. He has to slow down to avoid offside on the rush, he has to slow down to avoid getting out of sync in the cycle. He’s slowing up his own game to accommodate these mediocre skating wingers, and it looks like he is uncomfortable not being able to open the throttle all the way. Speed and Aggression are the cornerstones of Kopi’s game, and playing with a slow winger is going to put him off his game. A faster winger, even with less experience, should do better.
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Bill M. Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
@Bill M., As pointed out above, Kozun is a RW. I could have sworn he was Left. Bummer. We really, really are weak at LW.
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lv is the way Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
@Bill M., right on the money. Look at Martin St Louis..? Small! but he has a ring if i am not mistaken.
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Bill M. Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
@Bill M., My point still stands with Kopi though. He’s a fast power center. His game is all about speed and aggression, putting defenders on their heels with a blistering attack speed. He can’t do that unless he has a winger to attack with him. Otherwise he gets double teamed trying to attack all by himself.
Maybe Williams will provide that again. It seemed to work out last year. Kopi and Williams were the strike team, and Smyth was just the clean up crew.
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I love how people are throwing out the term, rebuilding…the Kings are not done rebuilding yet so to start over is absurd. But what can one expect from the emotionality of fans who can’t see past their fingertips.
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puck73 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
@Cry Baby, Totally agree. It will take 6 to 9 seasons to have this organization running on autopilot like it does in Detroit. We are in season 5 and we are getting closer, but as DL always says in interviews…We still gotta lot of work ta do here.
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