Terry Murray’s postgame thoughts…
(on whether this was an improved effort…)
MURRAY: “Well, it was a good 60 minutes, yeah. We played well enough to win the game. We’re not scoring goals. There’s nothing happening in the end result, obviously, with the goal scoring. The other part of the game is pretty good. I thought we checked well. We had good puck movement. We turned it over a little bit, in the second period, on some breakouts where they came back at us, but overall the attitude of the checking was good here tonight, and the opportunities were there. We’re not capitalizing.”
(on Hiller’s late-game save on Kopitar…)
MURRAY: “It kind of reminded me of the playoffs last year, with Luongo’s save on Ryan Smyth, that shooting it into the glove. And that’s the way it goes. You’ve got to keep going, though. You can’t let that discourage you. You just have to keep battling away at it, and it’s going to turn around. When you get those kind of opportunities, obviously the next time could be the one that will kick the door open a little bit for us, and we can start to be a better hockey club again on the offensive part of it.”
(on whether he might make line changes…)
MURRAY: “No, no I’m not. Again, the overall team game is pretty good. There’s lots of good things happening, and we’re building, I think, every game, to just break through. It’s just a matter of getting the next opportunity. So I’m not going to fool around with the line combinations right now. I’m starting to see some good chemistry develop.”
(on the play of Doughty and Johnson…)
MURRAY: “They need to be better. They need to be better. Everybody is battling a little bit, a little bit of fumbling of the puck, and maybe a little bit of nervous play with the puck at times. We need those guys. The only way you get out of anything is with your best players taking charge, and we need them to be our best players. The two players on the back end, Doughty and Jack, we need them to be A-plus every night, and certainly right now. I thought they had a slow start, and then they got a little bit better as the game went along, but we need those guys better, for sure.”
fire. THIS GUY.
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OneTimer Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
@nickdoh,
Ok, we get it. A 3rd (or was it 4th?) near-identical post was not necessary.
Geezus buy some new material.
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nickdoh Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
@OneTimer,
im sorry coach.
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ADub87 Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
@nickdoh, Disagree. This is the same coach that led us to a 12-3 start and it is the players, not the coaching that got us into this situation. People need to be better, plain and simple. Doughty and Johnson have been playing poorer than I have ever seen over this stretch, firing TM is not the answer.
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nickdoh Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
@ADub87,
Yes the players need to play better. But that’s the coach’s job. To get the most he can out of them.
Motivate. Push. Incite. Pressure. Persuade. Coach.
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ADub87 Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
@nickdoh, What would you like him to do, put a microphone in JJ’s helmet telling him not to throw the puck up the centre 4 times a game? A coach can point out where the players screwed up on film, challenge them to be better and take more pride in what they are doing, bench them for poor play, but if they go out there and make stupid plays what else is there for him to do?
Things are still going to take time here, we knew scoring would be a weakness this year. The only difference here is that our Defense has been letting us down as much as our scoring.
nickdoh Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
@ADub87,
You just listed all the things that should be happening, and happening much more publicly. BENCH him. CALLENGE him, in the press, in front of the entire team in practice. DO something.
(I’m borrwoing this phrase but;) The staff is too PASSIVE. I wouldn’t be trying to rub sticks together under Murray’s seat if he did do all those things and still wasnt getting results. I’d be on the other current bandwagon trying to get Jack Johnson traded.
I’m not expecting first place, but I am expecting more than this. And the things that worry me the most is it’s history repeating itself. Squandering early work by slumping and fading. It happened last year.
Line shuffling and a little video session. Time for an influx of “huevos”.
Deke'r Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
@ADub87, An influx of eggs??
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Jordan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 6:19 am
@Deke’r,
Hahahaha.
54FIGHTING Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 9:43 am
@nickdoh,
I get what you’re saying but I don’t think TM will get fired yet – yet. Give it another few loses and he’ll be gone. It’s not like DL is going to fire himself.
I see so much of the 94 team here. In 93 our top line of Luc-Gretzky-Sandstrom were killer and unstoppable (in the 2nd half of the season) and then in 94 Melrose never played them together. It reminds me of Smyth-Kopitar-Williams this year. Where is that line? Are we really getting any production from them with Stoll – no. Time for a change.
I’m also waiting for the players to actually show more emotion and committment to winning. Where is the players only meeting and the playing better for each other? I thought for sure they would take it to Chicago and then after that loss, take it to the Ducks but nothing. It looks like we’ve fallen back into our loser mode.
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mcsorleyfan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 10:51 am
@54FIGHTING, yeah, that meeting apparently went off before the loss to the Senators.
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MURRAY: “Herp, derp, and herpaderp.”
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robocop Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
@MR King,
i’ll see your “herpaderp” and raise you a “hurrrrdurrrr.”
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such passive coaching.
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nickdoh Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
@robocop,
Well put. “passive” perfectly describes it. I will be borrowing that.
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Tick Tock! Tick Tock!
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i cannot believe what I just read from this coach.
what a complete joke he is.
can we please hire someone under 60 who can motivate this team and call out and punish those who are playing poorly..
JJ with an awful turnover which leads to a goal and he gets right back on the ice for a powerplay 2 mins later.
gimmie a break…he should have not touched the ice again and in fact should take a seat next game…
sure, bench frolov but let JJ constantly cost us goals and do nothing about it.
my god
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Cry Baby Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 7:52 am
@mattmonforton, But Marc Crawford is not available.
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Kompon still has a job…
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My rolex is saying its time for a change. Enough of the Sharks and Flyer mentality.
We need to build a Red Wing and Blackhawk mentality. Scotty Bowman for coach.
I was cussing every 1/2 second when I saw the fourth line taking the draw in the offensive zone.
Kopitar has diagressed and will never be the guy we wanted him to be. He is a scared Slovenian.
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Daren Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
@steve, Crazy, my Casio is saying the same thing but for a lot cheaper.
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jamesonafterawin Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
@Daren, People still waer watches?
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Kingstane9 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:35 am
@steve, scared slovenian? hahaha what a joke, lol. I saw scared JJ, Doughty yesterday, but common Kopi? I always watch him closely and he was one of, if not the best Kings player yesterday, so. He’s second in points behind Williams even if he’s not playing at best this season, but I’d say it has a lot to do with the constant LW changes on his line and coaching.
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FanfromSlovenia Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:58 am
@steve,
Obviously you didn’t watch the game, otherwise you wouldn’t talk such a nonsense about Kopi.
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RLane420 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 9:02 am
@steve, Its not Kopi’s fault that he his playing with 3rd line wingers every game. Sorry but Brown, Parse, King, Simmer, Richie and Lokti are not 1st line talent. Deano needs to get him at least 1 true linemate. Meaning someone at least close to Kopi’s talent level.
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bla bla bla
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I don’t think firing Terry Murray is the answer. However, doing nothing is definitely NOT the answer. I agree that we need some emotion, some passion, something from these guys. I am a sad clown right now.
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How did they play better tonight when both DD and JJ were responsible for both goals? Pathetic. Bench both of them and give more monarchs a shot — players who are hungry.
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I wish we could have an lakingsinsider press conference with the players/coaches. Every single quote would be followed by violent shouting from the crowd.
On that note: Fire Murray! Rabble rabble rabble!
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nickdoh Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
@Dwreck,
Just doing my best Johnnie Appleseed.
FIRE MURRAY!
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Keep battling, keep battling, keep battling, keep battling(this team will never get a cup if a coach doesn’t realize what he needs to do). MARK my words, Kings win the next 2 and yes, stomp the Wings.
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Jim Martin Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 7:25 am
@Kingsation8, Yea and give me a puff of the crap that your smoking!! This team sucks, they didn’t have a goal scorer or sniper last year and they sure as hell don’t have one this year. This team depends on luck to score goals. Lombardi had a chance to bring in some goal scorers but he remained passive in the offseason. This team reflecks their coach who has the personality of a dish rag.
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Hum, I must have missed the part where they got better?! Maybe it was while i was in the can. Funny thing was that when I looked in the toilet it did remind me of the kings right now.
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A little funnier note.
Its HILARIOUS the nicknames people make for these players. Hilarious.
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Will Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
@Michael_DD8, yea i just like to come here and read all this nonsense, hillarious, indeed
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This year we will be focusing on offense. More puck possession will create more offense. Does anyone remember TM saying this? I guess it was just something to say to comfort all of us due to not signing a certain someone. You can’t play like the Redwings without players like Datsyuk or Zetterberg. What a load! The only way to create offense is have offensive players on the roster.
Also, there is no way the Kings trade for Semin. Stop getting your hopes up. I bet DL pulls a much more mediocre player like Fleischmann, Wheeler, Hemsky or Penner. Now that’s something to get excited about.
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Michael_DD8 Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
@Rene,
Wow.. I would take Hemsky or Penner…
Whe3ler and Fleish arent that bad either..
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Rene Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
@Michael_DD8,
No offense meant but Penner is a loaf and Hemsky is an underachiever. This team needs a proven goal scorer. It would be nice to land a player that is not some other team’s trash.
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Matt F Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 12:24 am
@Rene, I agree Penner is pretty soft for his size.
Jim In CM Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
@Rene,
The next change will come from……Manchester!
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LW Anybody? Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
@Jim In CM, I’d take chances on any of these players at this point over players like King, Lewis, Richie, Zeiler, etc. etc…
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EternalOptimist Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:02 am
@Rene,
Totally forgot about the puck possession comment TM made earlier in the season… he must have been smoking something real good that day LOL… you’re right that we don’t have the personnel to play this style.
I think what we need is someone to play with AK who actually has good chemistry with him. DB is not the answer… he would actually be more effective playing with Zeus (and Simmers). I’d love to see that line reunited! How about recalling Loktionov? He was starting to develop chemistry with AK and I still have no idea why they sent him to Manchester. I know they want him to develop as a center, but if something was working why change it?
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@Rich Hammond,
my post was not offensive nor included slurs and/or profanity.
I did not repeat myself and did not personally attack anybody.
Not sure why it was deleted……… but I will say it again:
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO……
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Rich Hammond Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
That was not your original comment, and yes, it did contain questionable language, along with many others’ comments tonight, sadly.
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RabidHockeyFan Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
@Rich Hammond, Sorry – I was one of them! Just very upset with the lack of passion from the players! Thanks for putting up with us!
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No scoring touch on this team. We can all blame the coach, but the coach is not the one shooting the puck everywhere but on net, or right into the goalies glove…nor is the coach the one getting a tripping penalty right after a tripping penalty. I’m at a loss at whats going on, but if they play like they played tonite, they will win more than they’ll lose (I think).
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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MR King Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
@mattmonforton,
FROOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOOOOV
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Cry Baby Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 7:54 am
@MR King, HAHAHAHAHA….talk about passive!
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So Murray’s take is that it was a solid 60 minutes, except for the play of our best players? And once again the line that things happen and you just can’t let that discourage you? The team is getting discouraged, Murray has to find a way to fix this. The player are obviously good enough, judging from last year and the start of this season, Murray has to identify the problems and figure out fixes. That’s his job. He can’t just say shoot more and hope it will work itself out.
Of course I don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors. Maybe he has come up with specifics, but the team just isn’t following him any more. I want to see Murray succeed and win the Cup here, but he’s gotta get things straightened out.
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Hi Rich,
I know you prolly want to call out the team while in the locker room.
Do you ever visioning yourself getting into an alteraction like one reporter did with Ryan Leaf?
You might be the spark the team needs.
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Rich Hammond Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
No.
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Chip Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 12:02 am
@Rich Hammond,
Now that is funny. Who would be wishing for a “Ryan Leaf moment?” That is something I don’t ever want to see again, from any team, in any sport.
And that moment didn’t “spark” the team.
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Mr. Murray,
The game has changed since you started coaching back in 1282. If you cannot adapt, please resign.
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That was NOT a “good 60 minutes” coach. If your “best players” aren’t being your “best players” then how can it be good? Oh and heres a shocker: no mention of the other “best players” who aren’t bringing their “heavy sticks” or “bringing their A+ games”
The only chemistry I saw all night was the 4th line. They have D*&k for talent between them all, but just imagine if Kopitar or Brown would show half the urgency to make something happen as those guys did tonight.
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Smyth-Kopitar-Williams. Do it, coach!
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kingsxstevenxkings Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
@lilwaynesimmonds,
PRETTY PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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KingsfanFTW Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 9:58 am
@kingsxstevenxkings, i agree with u that line will be the best line
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Wow, what a tough loss. But calling for Terry Murray to be fired, or for Brown to lose the C is a bit ridiculous. There are 82 games in the season. Obviously I’m not happy about the results of the 7 of the last 8, but I’m not going to stop putting on my jersey every night when I tune in to Bob and Jim.
Rich is providing us with great content that no other team in the NHL gets. But I’m wondering if we’re spoiling that privilege by acting so disrespectfully. I can’t even imagine what our guys would say if they read some of the stuff on here. And I stress: OUR guys.
That being said, it’s clear that these guys need some motivation. Time to bust out the Rocky music and get a good speech from D Brown.
As always, Go Kings Go!!
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RabidHockeyFan Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
@Alternate Jersey, I struggle with the team needing a speech to be motivated to play the Ducks! This is a cross town rival, and honestly, the team played with little passion tonight! Where was the hitting/ physicality? Out of all of the recent games, this should have been the most motivating to turn things around! I don’t get it! These guys are professionals who are being paid a ton to play a game!
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Alternate Jersey Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
@RabidHockeyFan, Yes, you are right. They shouldn’t need a speech against the crosstown rival. I don’t doubt that they know that they should have beaten the Ducks tonight–they beat them 7-3 in the preseason (yes, I know it was preseason, but the point remains) and the games between these two teams are generally very physical.
But maybe these facts are exactly what will finally wake the boys up. I saw someone else post that not beating FLA on Thursday would be rock bottom, but I wonder if this loss served that purpose in the locker room tonight.
And of course, naturally, they need more than a speech to get things going–that wasn’t at all what I meant to imply. I just mean that the guys really need to dig deep now. And that is probably going to have to come from within.
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RabidHockeyFan Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
@Alternate Jersey, Just very very frustrated with the lack of passion from this team! Where is the fight? What happened to the game play like we did against the Lightning? Maybe Terry Murray can pull a Bobby Knight and throw a chair (couldn’t stand Bk), but he was passionate about winning! Where’s that passion with the Kings?
Alternate Jersey Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
@RabidHockeyFan, I totally understand. Admittedly, one of my favorite parts of the Kings games is seeing D Brown’s epic hits, and admittedly, I miss that these days. I, too, wonder where the passion is.
Funnily enough, too, me and my girlfriend always wonder why TM doesn’t ever seem to display emotion behind the bench, positive or negative. But who knows what his locker room speeches are like. Maybe they are actually really powerful. I would certainly hope so..but I do agree that passion seems to be what is missing. I remember reading a comment that someone posted about the guys not having fun playing anymore, and I really feel like that could be it, too, after reading the stuff about the guys carpooling “just because they want to” earlier in the season.
jamesonafterawin Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
@Alternate Jersey, And Xanax and marijuana for the fans.
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Chip Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 12:06 am
@jamesonafterawin,
What night is that? Are there email alerts?
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king lopez Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 9:20 am
@Alternate Jersey, WELL SAID!
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He’s an NHL coach and I am not….but did he really think that was a good 60 minutes? Watch the last 40, you had about 5 guys going hard and at least 3 were rookies.
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Earlier this year Jim Fox said the kings might be in a position to let some of the star players sit out a few games The time has come
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can we use the Great one for anything??
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Kingsation8 Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
@neil, Why? So fans can burn on him too? He did no good in PHX, just like that I would think fans wouldn’t wanna stay close to him.. lol
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How about we just let the old talented players get older and retire while the youger players play mediocer, get old and then become old talented player for other teams. Then rebuild.
Oh wait. Not a new idea for the Kings.
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Rich,
No offense, but the redundant blather from the players and coaches is not worth your time. I want to see some of that carte blanche reporting you were promised as an employee, and not just filling in for a microphone stand.
I’m curious as to when you plan to knock on Lombardi’s or Lieweke’s door to get their opinion on things. I want to know what they think of the 1-7 streak, of being outscored 11-4 in the past four games, completely nullifying the amazing start to the season, a coach who is using the “little engine that could” philosophy to propel this team to a win, and why they’re calling up Dwight f’ing King and John f’ing Zeiler when we are desperate for a win?
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Rich Hammond Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Sure…no offense when you question my credibility, judgment and ability. None taken, not at all. I must have missed the part, when the team was 12-3-0, when you were demanding that I bang down the doors and ask for contract extensions for everyone.
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xeropoint Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
@Rich Hammond,
It’s not Rich’s fault you aren’t hearing or seeing what you want from the players/ coaches. Oh and Rich, kudos for the good memory there!
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robocop Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
@Rich Hammond,
I’ll take the hit for not beating down your door earlier in the season, but then I’d like credit for all the times I expressed my gratitude for your blog way back when you were with LA Daily News and the Kings were terrible all season long. I’m not trying to start a flame war, I was trying to express a sincere desire to know what’s going on in managements mind and you are the direct connection. I don’t know what your plans are and I’m expressing my opinion as a fan of the Kings and of your blog. I don’t think I’m the only one who feels that the recycled comments (that’s a dig on Murray, not you) still resonate after going 1-7, and I’m anxious for something more because what the players and coaches are saying isn’t working. I truly meant no offense, and rereading my post I can see I got testy with you with the “carte blanche” remark, but that wasn’t my intention. I apologize for how my comments came out.
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Rich Hammond Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
No worries. I fully intend to talk to management (Lombardi), but I’m sure you understand that there’s a time and place. A half-hour after a seventh loss in eight games isn’t that time. It will come very soon. I do appreciate your clarification.
Deke'r Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 12:03 am
@Rich Hammond, Well done.
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The only thing more disapointing, and uninspired than their play in the last 8 games, are their comments after them. And that includes Terry Murray. It’s fine and dandy to have composure, and not make too much out of things, but it’s times like these it would be nice to have a backbone. All I can take from their comments after these pathetic no-shows, are that they need to “work harder”. Just like talent, hard work can only get you so far; and I guess we’ll never know how we would be fairing with a top 6 forward, because our GM never feels the urgency to go out and do much of anything.
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When is Kopitar going to step up and assert himself on the opposition? I don’t think he’s that type of player. He is so responsible defensively and I love to watch that but he needs to be the guy that gets us out of our seats. One or two scoring chances a game isn’t going to cut it.
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LW Anybody? Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
@Rene, Kopitar is truly the most skilled, and intelligent player on this team, but he just doesn’t possess very good foot speed. He will never be the one to wheel up through the neutral zone, flying by deking out defenders and scoring on breakaways. That’s not his strength. That’s exactly why it is paramount for this club to find someone with some speed, and the skill to hang onto the puck till he can get into the play and then let him do his thing. I still think he is one of the elite forwards in this league, but with his current linemates, he is lucky he still a point a game player.
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xeropoint Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
@LW Anybody?,
Then explain how Crosby and Malkin dominate games with Dupuis, Fedotenko, Cooke and Sykora?
The number one lines biggest problem is its biggest player. It’s not just about putting up points. It’s when those points are put up that matters more. Even more than that, making the players around him better, regardless of who they are.
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LW Anybody? Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:32 am
@xeropoint, I said Kopi has no foot speed. Pure and simple. Crosby and Malkin both are quicker, and I’d venture they are both a bit physically stronger. That doesn’t change the fact that he has a lot of talent. But the short answer to your question is, NO, he isn’t Crosby or Malkin, or Ovechkin, but he is still the most talented person on the team. If you want better results from the person we have, he needs better linemates. This isn’t even debatable…
Will Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
@xeropoint,
Kopitar has similar talent like crosby and malkin, Only diffrence is the system they play on and of course hard work dedication to the study of the game.. Skill and Hard Work = Elite Status
Kingstane9 Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 3:06 am
@LW Anybody?, that’s your opinion. He’s better than Malkin by mine..
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Hockeysureshot Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 12:04 am
@Rene, Dude the guy got absolutely robbed by Hiller tonight. He is not the problem right now.
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Not only is the wood wet, its floating out to open sea.
It actually looks like TM is running out of ideas.
Cmon guys, they’re paying you to come up with ideas. Being 2 wins out of getting back in the playoff race only works if you win 2 games. Get the wins.
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“Well, it was a good 60 minutes, yeah. We played well enough to win the game.”
Is he INSANE? Evidently the view from the bench isn’t very good. The Kings had a good 1st period, but got outplayed badly in the 2nd and 3rd. I really think Terry Murray is a huge part of the problem and he needs to go.
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is this guy a baffoon
-TM says they played a good 60 minutes,good enough to win ARE U KIDDING ME
-he says he is starting to see chemestry develop ARE U KIDDING
-he says the overall team game is good ARE U KIDDING
I LOVE this team to heart but man if they lost the next 4 games or so but if the only good thing that came out of it was TM AND KOMPTON get fired i would cheered for that.
-is sad when your best line is the 4th line in the 3rd when being behind the game by 1 or 2 goal
-is sad when the most dangerous forward is your enforcer*nothing against him*
-rookies are playing good thou
-this team is being out coached
-LACK of goals on the PP is costing us games
-so TM has tried so many line combinations on the 1st 2nd and 3rd lines so if things are not clicking whose fault is it players or coaches
-bench dd adn jj send the team a message
well i sure hope that they win the next game but if they dont DL needs to step in and fired TM
HOW ABOUT PROMOTING THE MONARCHS COACH TO THE KINGS
GO KINGS GO i still have faith but for how much longer
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Hockey bloggers speak two languages, English and profanity –
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Jeez, we all sound like a bunch of silly crybabies.
You know, this is a sad thing when I see such a great medium for hockey being overrun by emotional posts. Yes, we’re all upset because we’ve lost a few games. But it won’t last-no team has ever lost every game starting in November to finish a season.
People need to remember that these are professional athletes with a ton of pride. At some point that pride will force them all to start looking at themselves-not a system or a philosophy-for the answers. Let the GM deal with the coach, he couldn’t care less what we think right now and you were all singing his praises at 12-3.
I won’t tell people what to use this site for, but I’ve always been impressed by the cummulative IQ of our contributors. I love hearing guys deride our soft power play, and poor shooting from the point. Some individuals’ line combinations are another topic I find enlightening about our fans’ sense of the game. Why are you dumbing this forum down to a moronic tirade against the team you obviously care about or you wouldn’t be posting it here.
This is why you don’t believe the hype during a 6-game win streak, and why repeating as a champion is the hardest thing to do in sports.
So, when all the emotionally violated fans who can’t wrap their head around the idea of ‘an entire season’ finally sell your season seats and have yourselves a good long cry, I’ll toast your absence and keep watching objectively.
Man up Kings fans. There’s a reason we love this sport.
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Alternate Jersey Reply:
November 29th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
@furrylats, Epic win.
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Hockeysureshot Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 12:05 am
@furrylats, Well said! Chill out people!
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mcsorleyfan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 11:08 am
@furrylats, and thanks for adding some intelligence to the conversation. You may notice that when this turns into a whine fest many regular contributors just shut up. Thanks for finding something positive to add!
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Murray’s comments boggle the mind. He seems very out of touch.
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TinaBeana Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 3:06 am
@AnotherMurrayBitesTheDust, maybe it’s his age, but who knows.
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Ha! This is why I can never be a coach of anything. I did not find anything encouraging about that game at all. All I’ll be doing is discouraging my players. I’m glad I’m not running that ship.
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this GM and coach combo will Never get the job done end of story. i was Not here when they were 12-3 praising the Kings, i never believed in this team.
JW and RS started hot last year, then what happened.
Zus is Horrible, 4 Mil for a 3rd line center who cant skate wonderful. the lack of depth is just sad, they cant replace Parse and Poni at all, what if Kopi or Brown went down. this team rode Quick to the playoffs last year, i dont see it happening again.
it sounds like from the comments, that these players arent even angry about this. TM is not going to get more out of them, time for a change, i hated the TM hiring in the 1st place. i would love a trade, but dont see that happening. i know Bos just made a small deal, but meaningful trades just dont happen much anymore.
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The Kings had a total of 7 giveaways and the Ducks had a total of 8 giveaways. The Ducks capitalized on one of them and the Kings didn’t.
The Kings had 3 power plays and didn’t score the goal. The Ducks had 2 power plays and scored one goal.
Funny thing is that many of you think we had a chance to win this game if DD’s penalty and JJ’s giveaway didn’t happen. Even if those two guys played perfect game, the Kings would have lost this one.
DD and JJ are trying hard … maybe trying too much. I’m sure TM encourages them to initiate the offense but there is no F3 to back them up. As a result, we have been getting outnumbered attack lately. But if our forwards score a couple, they don’t have to push so hard. It’s just the balance we had while we were on winning streak isn’t there. So I think TM’s job right now is finding the balance.
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Matt F Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 12:33 am
@goldielocks, I think your comment about JJ and DD is spot on about trying too hard. It is part of what happens with Dustin Brown from time to time. Doing too much often times results in bad outcomes.
An example of this is when a goalie cheats the pass on a 2 on 1, it just means he doesnt trust his dman to cut off the pass, and more times than not the puck ends up in the back of the net.
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LW Anybody? Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 1:37 am
@Matt F, More times than not the puck end up in the net on a two on one, regardless of your example..
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Those of you questioning Rich Hammond’s work ethic, credibility and journalistic integrity need to have their head examined. His job is to provide current and reliable information about everything related to the Los Angeles Kings which he has done admirably since the day he received this job.
Hardly any of you pay attention to his feature stories or the numerous investigative stories which he no doubt spends hours on leading up to a game. I sit in the 300 level at Staples Center and I always spot Rich in the press box pouring over his laptop well before the team hits the ice for pre-game warmups.
His purpose is not rumor mongering or to be the dissatisfied mouthpiece for fans who do not enjoy the team’s current play (read: losing streak). If you would like that type of hyperbolic and speculative journalism, I suggest you look to other less credible sites of which there are many to choose from. You should count yourselves lucky to have a talented and unbiased reporter who devotes themselves fully to the team whom you support.
Twitter – jonathanehawks
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I was at the game at and the kings actually looked really good tonight just weren’t getting bounces or able to get the finish to put the goals in the net. as far as Doughty goes i think he just needs Mitchell back for him to get playing again like he used to but honestly and I know a lot of u arent going to agree but JJ is blowing it big time. thats 2 games in a row a stupid mistake has led to a goal and any other goals scored while he is out there is outta position or just watching.. he needs to sit or be traded he to me is not worth the money hes reminding me of randy jones lol.
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Read between the lines kids…
TM gave a bad interview.
Bad interview = frustration.
He made some regrettable remarks (IMHO) in this one
“It was a good 60 minutes”
“We played well enough to win”
“I’m starting to see some good chemistry develop”
These are regrettable because we only played a good 40 minutes or so, We played well enough to stay in the game but not win unless we catch a break, and starting to see good chemistry when you’re 1-7 in your last 8 is NOT a coach who wins Stanley Cups. TM is good enough to get this team to a Stanley Cup, I’m just accusing him of being human and he had just as much of an off night as the rest of the team. He’s probably scratching his head ten times more than we are. Heck, his hair is 5 shades whiter than opening night simply from all the dandruff he’s pulled up lately!
See my other comment for DL in the next thread. I think that’s a more relevant reason we’re losing than this.
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time for another “HARSH” session of video review coach. that really worked out last time.
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Let me save him the trouble next time: “we need to just put more shots on goal from the points and then we have to be willing to pay the price”. What a maroon.
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what happen last year we get to score more then 2 or 3 goals with no problem this year we cant even get score pathetic Kings are going down hill really fast and the way they going they not able to make the playoff and thats a backstep and if the Kings dont make th eplayoff this year then i hate to say it then the Kings are back being a the crappiest and go back being last place they deserve it the way they trying they are trying to loose and let Quick burn out first i thought it was JB fault but i dont think it was his fault anymore the way the Kings are playing The coach need to make them play good or he out of a job cause i seen team fire their head coach and get new one and he makes them go this Coach is very good just not doing the job right
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
November 30th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
@KingsfanFTW, dude…….. you should try using some punctuation in your posts. It would make the reading alot easier and you may be able to get your point across a little bit better.
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Disappointed in LA.
I think DD is experienciung his Rookie second year slump this year and JJ is just pressing to be seen as a defenseman as good or equal to Drew. I need to remember that these guys are still a very young team and they are still learning. I think Scuds should give both DD and JJ some pointers. His play is so smart!
GO BACK TO THE BASICS!
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