The Kings have called up defenseman Alec Martinez from Manchester of the AHL and assigned defenseman Jake Muzzin to Manchester. Martinez was leading the Monarchs in points.
Also, the assigned referees for tomorrow’s game are Kevin Pollock and…Eric Furlatt.
Kings practice is scheduled to start in 20 minutes…
hope Eric Furlatt has some make up calls
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EASportsMgt Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:52 am
@Octane, Forget the refs, and in Montreal, we went be getting any calls anyways.
Good for Martinez, I think he finally figured it out, and built his confidence the right way. If Martinez plays his game the right way here, I doubt we will see Muzzin back this year unless there is an injury. Martinez is a great skater, he just needs to “compete” as Murray says on every single play, if he does, it should be pretty good for him.
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2 blind mice!
I had a feeling this was coming for Muzzin. His game seemed to have slipped the past couple that he’s played.
It never hurts to gain the experience in Manchester. He seems to have a bright future. Hopefully he takes it the right way.
I guess Martinez deserved the call up with his stats.
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lv is the way Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:29 am
@nykingfan, As my wife puts it about the refs. The four blind mice. I just hope for a win tomorrow.
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USHA#17 Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
@lv is the way,
Rare to see such a dramatic set of calls in one game.
Through I feel all but certain the Smyth call was off I’d really like to see a few more angles.
Given the ruling I even wonder if there were any more angles to see beyond the “FoxMo” shots.
How could there not have been a view from the far end of the ice?
But that’s all part of hockey.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE SAME REFS AGAIN D:
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This is good, he owes us 2 points! No better time to take him up on that. Now I’m glad the team/coaching staff did not over react and call him out haha.
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AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 9:25 am
@Niko,
He doesn’t owe us anything. Blaming the game on the refs is a weak excuse. We should never have let it get that close in the first place.
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Niko Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 9:27 am
@AZ King, In 99.9% of cases I would agree. This is one of those rare exceptions where the outcome was decided by the on-ice officials.
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AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 9:34 am
@Niko,
No the game was decided by two sloppy defensive plays by JJ and Greene.
nykingfan Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
@Niko,
AZ King is right…
They sucked, but you can pin the loss on very sloppy play by Greene and JJ. That last goal should never have been needed.
Jay GoLAKings Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 9:30 am
@AZ King,
Most hockey games are going to be close and having 2 calls go against you is too much to overcome.
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AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 9:43 am
@Jay GoLAKings,
Sorry I’m not buying it. The refs did not lose the game, we did. Sloppy defense, too many passes by the offense, and a handful of near misses that could have easily been goals by the Kings. That was the difference in the game.
If you want to blame it on the refs fine, I’m going to put the blame where it really belongs.
Dan H. Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
@AZ King,
“we did”? Were you on the ice with the team there kemosabe?
Something you want to tell me there JMJF?
Just breaking balls man. You know I love you
AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
@Dan H.
Haha, thanks man
Jay GoLAKings Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
AZ King,
Ok, I agree that JJ & Greene made some sloppy defensive plays that led to goals and if that did not happen we would not have lost the game.
I believe a poor defensive play will happen almost every game on both sides, like Spezza’s turnover to Kopi and he scores.
Also on Smyth’s goal thier D-man did not clear him out in front.
All of this is part of the game (I know)& it is too bad that Toronto left it up to the call on the ice, after all the replays we seen says differently.
King John Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
@Niko,
The ref won’t make up anything: he had the chance on Smyth’s goal to make up the ignoring of the Ottawa D pulling the goal off it’s moorings earlier in the game (which cost us a goal), and he didn’t, so……..
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Deke'r Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
@Niko, That’s precisely why the comments were made that way, no need to fuel the fire.
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Erik “The Robber” Furlatt – hope he will return two goal tomorrow
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Of course! Can’t wait to get furlatted…..
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danlikespez Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:35 am
@therope, LOL
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PRMan Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:47 am
@therope, Don’t you mean, “Furlattened”?
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wait isnt there some rule about this BS? that you can call the same team in a span of so much time?
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Ease off the refs already. If you’ve never been a referee you have no clue how fast the game moves and how quickly you have to make a decision. Keep in mind that there was NO CLEAR EVIDENCE that the goal was legal. Even Smyth said it was close.
Of course as Kings fans we want the call to go our way, and they will, but blaming the game on the refs is a weak excuse. The team needed to play better, and the game shouldn’t have been that close in the first place.
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pr0cess Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 9:39 am
@AZ King, except it was pointed out that CBC had a good view but wouldnt give it up, and if you read the qoutes from today, they even thought it was a good goal.
And what about the simmer goal? he didn pull the net? bad mistakes both of them..
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rexmundi Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 9:39 am
@AZ King, yes but if the call was so “close” why was the ref so emphatic about the washout so quickly? he and you know thats a goal. in that situation he needs to be absolutely sure, and by the video evidence and your statement, youre not sure so perhaps before calling off the goal, he should have consulted the other officials for an opinion, then went to the booth with a consensus of opinion. to wash the goal out left the booth and the other officials with no other recourse.
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AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
@rexmundi,
Please don’t tell me what I think. I don’t know that it was a goal, and the ref obviously didn’t think it was goal. He waved it off so emphatically because from his perspective it wasn’t a goal. Did I WANT it to be a goal, absolutely, but it didn’t go that way.
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AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:51 am
@Hat trick
Wow, ouch that really hurt. I’m going to crawl in a corner and cry now…
Whatever you want to think, I couldn’t care less. I’m just taking the emotion out of the situation. If the roles were reversed and the call went against any other team this wouldn’t even be an issue on here.
Hat trick Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:03 am
@AZ King, you’re dead wrong. if the call went the other way yeah it would be good for the Kings but i would know that it wasn’t right for the refs to take away a game like that. im talking about the officiating here and it needs to be as unbiased as possible for any and every team in the NHL.
AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:29 am
@Hat trick
I didn’t see a biased game. I saw calls that went against the Kings, boo hoo, suck it up, be a man, and move on.
Show me a video that CLEARLY shows Smyth’s stick below the crossbar when he touched the puck, not some reverse angle using the boards or the goalie’s arm as a point of reference.
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
@rexmundi,
A picture, from Jewels From The Crown/Quisp:
http://www.jewelsfromthecrown.com/2010/11/22/1831619/ott-3-lak-2-postgame-bullets
Note the level of Smyth’s stick. IF he was bringing the stick down from the moment the puck hit the stick to this moment (with the puck on the ice), then his stick (now at the level of the top of the net) must have been above the net when the puck hit the stick.
In either case, the point is still debatable. Either way, the game is over–and lost.
A camera should be placed at ice level at the level of the top of the bar, on either side of the net, both nets. Yes, the view may be obstructed. It might also be helpful.
Oh well.
Next game.
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Quisp Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 9:50 am
@AZ King,
Yes, the game goes fast, and that’s why video review has jurisdiction over pucks directed with a high stick. You bring up the standard of “no clear evidence the goal was legal”, but the rule book does not set that standard. Unfortunately, the rule book does not clarify whether the burden of proof is on the infraction (proof the stick was above the crossbar at the point of contact) or the absence of one (proof the stick was not above the crossbar).
HOWEVER, obviously, all goals are only good goals in the absence of an infraction preceding the goal. So, logically, the burden lies with showing that the infraction (the high stick) occurred. Video review does not show that the infraction occurred. So they cannot rule that it occurred. If the ref asked for a video review (which I bet he didn’t), the video review’s determination (good goal, no goal) is final. There is no “whatever you think” option.
Now, if the ref simply decides it WAS hit with a stick above the crossbar, AND he doesn’t ask for a review (which would give away his authority to have final say in the matter) AND video review is inconclusive, THEN the call on the ice can stand, technically, because the ref never asked for a review. The video review happens automatically on EVERY goal or potential goal, but a reasonable reading of the rule is that the video review doesn’t have the final say unless the ref asks for the opinion of video review.
At which point, one might wonder why a ref in the opposite corner, who has to look through Ryan Smyth’s body to see his high stick, on a play that is at worst very, very close, wouldn’t desire the input of video review.
Maybe because his authority is more important to him than being right?
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AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:04 am
@Quisp,
It is my understanding that even if the ref asks for video review, unless there is indisputable evidence that the call on the ice was wrong, the refs call is always final.
Basically the call on the ice was no goal due to a high stick. Whether the ref called for the review or Toronto called for it, unless there was indisputable evidence that the puck was NOT hit with a high stick the call on the ice stands. Do you have information to the contrary?
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Quisp Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:30 am
@AZ King,
Well, my information is from the NHL rule book. I don’t have it in front of me (at Starbucks).
However, from memory (I was looking at the language last night, and I believe I quoted it extensively on Jewelsfromthecrown.com):
1) the ref has final say on everything. however:
2) if a play is referred to video review (by the ref), the determination of video review IS FINAL.
3) nowhere does the rule book say anything about “indisputable evidence” one way or another. Nor does it say what to do if it’s inconclusive upon review. however, i don’t see how video review can make a final and binding determination if their final answer is “who knows?”
4) it’s kind of obvious to all of us that the refs and the league operate under the assumption that if the video review throws up its collective arms (hell if we know what happened!) then the ref gets to make the call.
5) the rules also say that the ref is entitled to use all of the other officials including video review to assist him in making his decision. HOWEVER, this contradicts the rule about the video review having final say if video review is consulted by the ref.
6) all goals are reviewed by video review, no matter what the ref does.
7) the rules clearly state that the ref is entitled to change his mind after the initial call. i.e. he can reverse himself. the phrase used in the rule book, i believe is, “makes his final determination.”
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 am
@Quisp,
Where did you get the great picture?
http://www.jewelsfromthecrown.com/2010/11/22/1831619/ott-3-lak-2-postgame-bullets
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Quisp Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:31 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
all sbn photos are from getty/AP.
AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:22 am
@Quisp,
Never mind I followed the link and found what I was looking for. Thanks for the info.
Great picture by the way.
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Dazed N Confused Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:28 am
@AZ King, Teams make bad play or poor choices throughout the game they are not perfect. Now on that note the refs are human too but to have two goals or at least one goal and a pp taken away is a tough hill to climb. They fought to get back into the game to make up for those mistakes that were made and the were punished twice for that hard work. Our pp sucks but you have to look at how many close games there are in the league and two game changing calls had a direct effect on this game.
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AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:38 am
@Dazed N Confused,
If you want to believe that the refs cost us the game that’s fine. I’m just not buying it. If we had been able to convert on more than 1 pp, if JJ hadn’t turned the puck over to Alfredsson in the last minute of the 2nd period, if Greene hadn’t completely misplayed Spezza on the 3rd goal, if Simmonds didn’t hit the post in the 3rd, things could have ended differently.
Yes two calls going against you is a tough hill to climb, but there are a lot of other things that the team had control over that had a direct effect on the game as well.
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Bickleton Wigglesworth III Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:55 am
@AZ King,
This is the NHL the best hockey league in the world with the best players in the world. More should be expected from the officials plain and simple.
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AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
@Bickleton Wigglesworth III,
These are the best officials in the world.
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Bickleton Wigglesworth III Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
@AZ King,
That seems to be under debate.
Deke'r Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 6:38 pm
@AZ King, Smytty’s just being diplomatic,more than likely word from management. And I’m not being paid to be a ref they are and probably made a little extra on the side for that game! OH CANADA……..
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It’s too bad that ref’s can not be sent down and called up as well.
I would love to see a 90 MPH deflection bounce off of his face and into the net for the Kings. Now that would be justice!!
At least hockey is not like baseball, where the umpire makes a judgement on every single pitch.
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Hat trick Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:44 am
@Doc. Mark 1968, i like that idea and that would be justice. sweet justice.
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Mickey Keenan Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
@Doc. Mark 1968, Of course if that did happen, the goal would not count. As a goal cannot be deflected in by a referee.
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Thanks Rich! I just lost my Cheerios after reading who tomorrows Referees will be!
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I’m still a little ticked over the ending of last night’s game! I really felt that we got the raw end of that call. If Smyth’s deflection was that close to the crossbar level, then how could the referee definitively wash it out, especially with three seconds left in the game?
With all of the technology available today, why can’t the NHL have cameras at ice level to assist the guys in the War Room in Toronto for these types of plays? The League needs to step out of the Dark Ages!
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lafan13 Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:02 am
@Rainman,
Well, the way it works…. If the evidence isnt 100% for sure that the call was incorrect. W/e was called on the ice stands. While we could all argue that smyths stick was lower then the x-bar, there was not 100% certainty based off the evidence at hand.
As sad as it is, the League made the correct decision in honoring the call that was made on the ice.
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The ref’s were brutal last night! It wasn’t just the obvious missed call on Smyth’s goal, it was also the brutal call on Cartner for pulling the goal off the peg when he saw the puck sitting in the crease!
These guys deserve discipline!
I understand why Toronto didn’t overturn the call, they didn’t have, from what we saw, the angle to see what really happened. At least not enough to overturn the brutal call on the ice!!
Reminds me of the days of the Rams in Minnesota against the Vikings and the brutal calls up there!
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Great for Martinez! He has been playing solid in the AHL and deserves a call up. I like his game. Let’s see what he can do this year!
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puck73 Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 3:49 pm
@Jay, Others had stated for weeks that Martinez should be recalled and I posted that if he was ready that Hextall, Lombardi, and Mark Morris are the guys that will decide…Well, they have decided !
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Lovely, I don’t care what anyone says but ref’s involved in disputed plays tend to carry a grudge. Betting on at least one goalie interference call on smyth, maybe 3.
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AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:07 am
@jammer06,
Why would the refs have a grudge against us?
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Stuart Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
@AZ King, because our Kings have NEVER had the respect of the referees. How many “holds” go against us while the other teams D does it all day and may get called once or twice, but the second WS or RS’s stick gets anywhere near parellel, whistle.
Of course AZK will say “do you have proof of this” to which of course I dont, but I’ve watched this game long enough to know this much. Hopefully, with a bunch more playoff experience under our belts, we’ll gain that respect.
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AZ King Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:44 am
@Stuart,
Thanks for putting words in my mouth Stuart, you’re off the mark as always.
What I will say is; the question was not about “respect” it was about the refs having a grudge against us.
Loskingpride Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:31 am
@AZ King, Well after Furlatt blew it he obviously came onto this blog and saw what the fans think of him, leading to these soon to be 3 goalie interferences.
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Congrats Alec, really we are happy for your being brought up to the big club, it’s just that we are a little preoccupied at the moment.
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Anyone being brought up to replace King on the first line?
*cough*Bring Lokti back*cough*
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Yeah, we did get a raw deal on those 2 plays last night, the Simmer non goal and Smittys deflect. Could we have won if we got those calls? Maybe. However, as Jim Rome says: scoreboard, somebody wins and somebody loses and we don’t care about anything else in between. Bottom line is the Kings just didn’t take care of business. Welcome Alec, now show us what you got.
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Dan H. Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:26 am
@Goring 19,
Jim Rome was a tennis player in college. Nuff said about him.
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Jay Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
@Dan H.,
So what’s wrong with tennis players?
You won’t find a better sportsman or athlete then say…oh…Nadal? Federer? Borg? Rafter?
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2 PLAYERS ARE A SHADOW OF WHAT THEY WERE LAST SEASON
Doughty and Greene when they get better so will the team Not officials who make wins and losses Ask TM
Did you all see the road trip in Feb 10 games on the road hope they are still in playoff contention after the trip
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I’d bet $100 (C) that if asked, Furlatt could not say whether Ryan tipped that puck with the tip of his stick or the toe. Why? He never saw it at all, because Smyth’s body blocked Furlott’s view. The other ref (Peel) had a clear view of the play and didn’t wave it off. What does this tell us?
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furlatt that’s just wonderful. another game taken away by some blind refs??? I wouldn’t be surprised.
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As long as the Kings are switching minor leaguers I’d like them to send Kung done and Moller up. King hasn’t been bad but hasn’t looked at all like a top 6 guy. Moller has experience, was sent down because there was’t room on the top two lines in LA, and is always looking to shoot.
Lastly as frieghtening as this is to write they could use his physical game. He’s often shown a desire to get his nose dirty along the boards a the forecheck just hasn’t been what it needs to be although it better last game mainly because of Cliffords pressure on the puck.
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IceGuy Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:47 am
@Bickleton Wigglesworth III,
I’d have to agree with Wiggles. We know King is a wide body, but skates like he’s dragging hay bales. Moller would be a much better replacement for the ever elusive #1 LW position. All in all I’de much rather see Speedy Gonzalez playing than Martinez.
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puck73 Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
@IceGuy, Speedy Gonzalez ? In these politcally correct times we live in…I would be very carefull if I was you..you never know who might read this and take it the wrong way.
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Great news for Martinez. These college guys need a litle more time. I hope he can get in at least a dozen games or so. This is perfect for his development. The AHL game is becoming to slow for him. Good luck Al. As to the referees: when was the last time we had fair referees in Montreal? This is one of the best bets against the Kings this year. Take advantage. As I say that, I am 0 for 2 this year.
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puck73 Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
@jet, Most players dont come into their own usually until between the ages of 24 and 27. Both Lewis and Martinez are now 23 and as we can see they both look very close to becoming pro’s.
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Again, you all need to get over it. You’ll win some games on bad calls and you’ll lose some games on bad calls. It’s the nature of the game just like it’s the nature of the game to lose some games you should win. I can remember plenty of games last season in which the Kings should have lost but won. As a matter of fact we should have lost the game to Boston. The Kings were terribly outplayed and won so maybe its justice…
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Hat trick Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:49 am
@Lvhatrick, I’ll get over it…once both refs take a deflection in the nuts!
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Dan H. Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:57 am
@Hat trick,
Elementary schools must be on hiatus for the holiday week.
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Hat trick Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:59 am
@Dan H., Lol i guess so. garbage guys must be taking a break right about now.
Dazed N Confused Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:51 am
@Lvhatrick, Was there a call that let the Kings take two goals away from Boston? Was there any calls that altered the game? You will have calls that you don’t agree with that lead to the other team scoring a goal, but two calls on goals for us come on. I am the first person to say the Kings need a better PP and they dig themselves a hole sometimes, but to be punished for the hard effort to get back into the game sucks. We have to let it go because it’s over but just because the Kings were behind and made some bad plays they didn’t play bad enough to get jobbed by the refs!
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Hat trick Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:56 am
@Dazed N Confused, exactly well said. you knew something was up on that Simmonds play at the net. If I remember right there wasn’t even a penalty called. It was just so blatantly obvious it was ridiculous. He didn’t have to grab onto the goal. There’s no need for it. If he was pushed into the net I can let it go. He knew Exactly what he was doing and so did the refs but choose to turn a blind eye. That’s whats so damn infuriating.
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Mickey Keenan Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
@Dazed N Confused, The truth is the mistake on the Simmonds goal was the non penalty. The net is OBVIOUSLY off the peg when the puck goes in so NO goal. Even a review would confirm that. Did Carkner deserve a penalty yes…. So how did that cost us the game? no way we score on the PP so there still is no goal.
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Ahh, the “tip” of the stick is the toe
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Just curious why all the talk is about the last goal waived off. Even worse was the first one. That was crystal clear. So clear, here’s what was printed in the Ottawa Sun:
“Meanwhile, the good fortune was in the air all night for the Senators in front of 18,315 fans at Scotiabank Place.
With the Senators nursing their 3-2 lead with a mere three seconds remaining, Ryan Smyth’s apparent tying goal was waved off due to a high stick. The on-ice call held up following a long video review.
In the final minute of the first period, the Kings inexplicably ended up without either a goal or a power play when Matt Carkner clearly knocked the net off its pegs to prevent the puck from crossing the goal line.”
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King John Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 12:24 pm
@mythreekings, thanks for that…
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Mickey Keenan Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 1:25 pm
@mythreekings, So they missed a penalty. Big deal, we cannot score on the PP. There are probably 10 other plays in the game that deserved penalties too.
As for the last goal. The ref made a judgement call, was the puck hit above the crossbar, in his eyes yes. did the replays show “CONCLUSIVE” evidence that he was wrong and should be overturned no. Should the NHL install ice level cams like they do for over the goal line calls, yes… but the end result is the ref made his call, and the video was not in place to overturn it.
The best angle was following just behind the puck so you see it go into the net, but you do not actually see the tip occur, the camera was late. It is unfortunate, but it happens all the time.
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SAME REFS????? I’m tempted to fly to Montreal. Just not sure how the TSA will react to my torch and pitchfork.
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Doc. Mark 1968 Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:45 am
@Bill M.,
I think right now, I’d be more worried about how they will respond to your tool and willies!
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IMHO teams that are competing for the Cup don’t cry over refs calls. It would be nice if all of us on this blog would take that same approach. I know its good to air out the frustrations, Lord knows those were HORRIBLE calls!!! LOL But, if we want the team to be championship caliber than we the fans should act the same way.
Screw Ottawa. on to Montreal!!!
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I’m sure Mr. Furlatt watches video replays of his games, and especially in this case. I’m sure he takes pride in his job and did not get to the NHL by making bad calls. If he has any integrity, I’m sure he probably feels bad about both missed calls.
Doesn’t mean we’ll get make up calls on Wednesday, it just (Hopefully) means he’s learned a lesson on how to be a better referee at our expense. I hope the rest of the league appreciates our sacrifice. (LOL)
What the Kings should be saying to themselves is that they have to leave NO DOUBT as to who should win that game tomorrow and come out guns blazing. SHOOT THE PUCK! Hit people and then SHOOT THE PUCK AGAIN! They’ve just learned the hard way that they can not leave games up to the officials.
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Hat trick Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:28 am
@Cynic, gotta be like olivia newton john. let’s get physical!
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King John Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
@Cynic, I thought you’re name was CYNIC!
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Cynic Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
@King John,
Well, isn’t it cynical that I am called Cynic, yet I’m not being cynical? Therefore by definition, I am a cynic, which is cynical in itself.
It’s like thinking in Euclidian Geometry. Everyone can follow it but nobody understands it.
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Am I missing something???
This post is about Martinez FINALLY being called up and Drewiske being moved down…oh wait did he say Muzzin? Are you kidding? Muzzin has ten times more upside!
Looks like I still won’t be going to Staples. How do Murray and Lombardi continue to let that waste of space put a Kings jersey on? Drewiske literally skates in a circle when he is supposed to clear the puck. He is pathetic and shows no sign of improving.
Here’s to Alec Martinez and hope he has an amazing first game tomorrow! Willy, Poni, Lotionov speedy recoveries please!
RB
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Shotongoal Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 11:45 am
@RB8, Amen to it all!!! I don’t get the love affair with Drewiske?
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puck73 Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 4:09 pm
@RB8, I sure hope its better the opening night last season vs Phoenix when he brought back memories of the famous “Escort Service” Headed by Daryl Sydor, Charlie Huddy, and Tim Watters. Apparrently DL and TM were not amused and shipped him back to Manchester asap…we will see how round 2 goes for the 23 year old defensemen out of Miami of Ohio.
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There has been so much chatter on the missed/bad calls it is now deserving of a nickname:
The refs cost us the game gate
Please refer to the nickname or your own nickname so as not to overload the server with endless repeat paragraphs or whining and complaining
If the kings had brought it to the sens, the two calls would be an after thought
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Can we send Jamie Kompon to Manchester of the AHL?
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Hat trick Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 2:13 pm
@Dan SanDonkey, after watching countless painful pp’s why not let the team loose and do their thing. Let them start setting things up and going to work. Last night it looks like the players are so “programmed” to do this or that that it takes away from any flow or creativity/momentum generated. I don’t think it can hurt it’s almost better that they play 5 on 5 than the pp at this point and that’s really sad.
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puck73 Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
@Hat trick, At this point, it couldnt hurt.
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We just need to get a 3 goal lead on the Habs and we will win. No magic.
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There are often bad calls by the refs. However, this was not just about a penalty, but 2 goals disallowed!!!If the NHL was fair, it would replace Furlatt or if Furlatt was smart, he would recuse himself from Wed game. Even in court with smeone’s life on the line recusal is acceptable.
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Mickey Keenan Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
@poe, The first disallowed goal was a correct call, the net was off before the puck went in.. plain and simple. A penalty should have been given, but no goal was the correct goal.
The second one was debateable, but no real good video evidence of the stick and puck connection. The ref waived it off, and the video could not conclusively overturn his call. At full speed, the ref made a close call, and video review is meant to correct obvious mistakes. Show me the video angle that shows conclusively it was below the crossbar.
Personally I think the should change the rule to the same as a knocking a puck with a high stick, above the shoulders… a bit easier to call, and a lot less frequent in terms of scoring goals
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These refs want to be known as good officials and they get paid more I believe for being chosen to officiate playoffs and the cup. You can bet that they watched the film and saw that they clearly took away two clean goals. Now, I’m not saying they did it on purpose or that they would give us any make up calls for it but you better believe that last nights game will be in the back of their mind tomorrow.
The Kings did not play as bad as everyone has been whining about. They out shot them and indeed did score two more goals than were counted on the score board at the end of the game. I agree with Murray that they shouldn’t be in that position but there is also absolutely NO DOUBT that the game was decided by the refs and the Kings were robbed of 2 points.
I hope we destroy the Canadians in regulation!
JJ has been making questionable plays all season when they are not called for and DD is clearly not playing the same he was last season. Quick busted his butt in the offseason to come in and be better than last year. I think DD is young but needs to show a little more of Quicks desire. He is already the “golden boy” at 20 and it might have gone to his head a bit already. I don’t think he is playing bad but just not to his potential.
Thoughts??
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Off topic but Clifford has been amazing on the 3rd line and seems to have got Simmonds going as well, would be curious to see Poni move to the 1st line and keep Clifford on 3rd when Poni comes back. The second line won’t be messed with as they are playing to good. Any thoughts?
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KC23 Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
@CJBKingsfan, Me likes.
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I’ve always wondered why the refs can’t group together after a tough call like that to discuss it and get it right. Surely another one should have ssen the play and noticed the stick was clearly below the crossbar. Then they wouldn’t have had to even go to video review. It seems to work in baseball…
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Kings problems are as usual third and fourth line scoring.They refused to adress the isuue during summer time and it has cost them few loses already. Powerplay sucks and under t murray Doughty has gone from the best dman in nhl to being very average so has simmonds play declined. Need scoring bad or we will not be successful in April. terry murray sucks as coach
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