Clearly something was up when Scott Parse spent nearly 10 minutes anchored to the bench in the third period. Parse returned to the game with just under five minutes remaining, but had only one shift before leaving the ice for good. Today, we found out why. Parse, who had missed almost all of training camp, and the first 11 games of the season, with a groin injury, was in his fifth game back with the Kings, but he won’t have another game for a while. Parse is scheduled to have surgery on Tuesday to repair his hip labrum and is expected to be out 3-4 months. Terry Murray was asked today when he knew that something might be amiss with Parse…
MURRAY: “It was the latter part of the second period, maybe three-quarters of the way through the second period, that I made a decision to take him off the line. I was just not seeing the kind of player that I was hoping to see. I really haven’t yet. I’m just waiting for him to break loose, with his skill, to be able to do something very good for us. Last night, he was into a behind-the-play look. He was turning pucks over, not able to battle along the boards and push against people. To me, there was something wrong. So I made the change on the line and, as you see, he wasn’t on the ice today.”
poor guy!!
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Didnt sound like TM was very sympathetic about Parse having a major injury that will keep him sidelined til at least February or Longer. I have never gotten the sense that TM ever liked Parse, or for that matter, Ersberg. Obviously I am not at practices and cannot prove that but it is just a feeling I get when he discusses these 2 players.
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#1faninvegas Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
@puck73,
I dont know, that is a tough call. To some degree, he could have hurt himself in his first game back, but didnt tell anyone, cuz he wanted to play. Even though Parse did improve the first line, I have to sort of agree with Terry Murray on this. He hasn’t played like he did last year! POSSIBLY?
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!admin Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
@puck73, I think you’re absolutely right, and not just TM, but DL too, they’re treating him like a Boyle, O’Sullivan, Frolov player.
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Stuart Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
@!admin, and what do all those players have in common??? wait for it, wait for it…
INCONSISTENCY!!!! It’s a career killer.
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Man o’ man, these long term injuries are killer. Really feel bad for Parse. Was given the opportunity to shine and just keeps gettin hit with the injury bug. Get well buddy.
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I knew it, called it out in a previous thread while he was out the first time. Wish him the best. Get well soon parsley!
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parse appears to be taking over for JW in the injury department. poor guy.
kind of funny that he’s getting surgery in the groin area by a guy named dr byrd
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Too bad for Scott, not many get the changes he has been given.
Can it be supposed that Williams many have been a mentor for him?
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Wow, I feel bad for Parse, this in alot of ways reminds me of JW’s injury last year. Even if he does make it back in mid Feb. 2011 its going to be weeks before he is up to speed with the rest of the team. I would say its the 4th line when he gets back.
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Good luck with the surgery and hope you have a quick recovery SP!
If Iginla becomes available, I’m really hoping we take a run at him. I think he’s exactly the type of sniper that we need on the first line. A change of scenery may up his game back to what it was a few years ago as well.
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Steve S. Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
@EternalOptimist, Probably not worth the 7 mil cap hit
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EternalOptimist Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:04 am
@Steve S., Ryan Smyth makes 6.5 so I don’t 7 is unreasonable at all for a 30+ goal scorer who is a leader and pretty complete all around player. Plus he is a durable player… just checked and he has not missed a regular season game the last 3 seasons! He never had a chance to play with a true #1 center in Calgary so playing with AK could really take his game to another level.
The only knock is that he is 33 years of age but that is really not that old. He does not look like he has lost a step, his work along the boards is excellent and his shot is still lethal. I just think this is a low risk, high reward gamble that we should not pass on.
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Rock Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:34 am
@EternalOptimist,
you can’t say low risk, high reward until it would be known what the kings organization would have to give to Calgary for Iginla
Forum67 Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 2:38 am
@EternalOptimist,
Iginla? Iginla? Do you mean the Iginla with a no trade clause? Do you mean the Iginla who reportedly said he would not ask Calgary for a trade?
Iginla did reportedly say that if Calgary approached him about waiving the no trade clause in his contract he would consider it. But I am pretty sure that if Calgary did make the approach (and I feel the chances are good that they will if they don’t think they’ll make the playoffs), Iginla would only consider a team that he felt was a strong contender for The Cup.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 10:00 am
@Forum67, That and, you have to figure Calgary is less likely to want to trade a player with that potential to a contender that’s in-conference.
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Hat trick Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
@Forum67, Iginla would be killer
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Stuart Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
@Hat trick, it’s being talked about in the Calgary Herald…
Hat trick Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
@Hat trick, that would Huge. i love Iginla’s attitude, skill, hustle and grit. perfect 1st line fit.
Tough break for the kid.
Get well soon Parse!
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I think this might be it for Parse having a prominent role for the Kings. This was his shot at being a top forward, and it didn’t happen. I didn’t expect it to be so quick. I really liked Parse last year and was hoping for the best for him this year. I wanted him to make it on the line with Kopitar. But, as TM said, he wasn’t playing up to capability (for whatever reason), though I thought he was okay and might break out soon.
By the time Parse is ready to go, I think the Kings will have traded for a top LW to make the big run. It’s just hard right now if we have to settle for 3rd liners to be on the top line. I don’t think the Kings will wait for a possible Parse late in the year, who won’t be at the level of everyone else. They might experiment with a few more people to see if someone can make the cut, and then go looking for outside help. Kovalchuk, anyone? (just kidding!).
I’m sorry, Parsely, we were hoping for better things.
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Jay Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
@King John, about 5 different assumptions lumped into this nice little post here.
We didn’t get rid of Williams when he had an injury….or Smyth……or Johnson…
So why do we automatically replace Parse and call his time with the Kings over now? Especially after he just signed a contract with us. February – April is still a lot of regular season hockey if he meets the time table…AND I assume we will be playing into the better part of May…PLENTY of games for him to prove something still.
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King John Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
@Jay,
I hope you are right…
He might turn out to be a keeper in the long run.
(But fans will forget him quickly if we acquire an awesome LW)
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Hat trick Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
@King John, i think Parse blew it imo. i think he was a little surprised that he was actually skating with Kopi and Brown and just didn’t let loose. woulda been good to see him make his presence known like drill someone or getting into a scuffle something to let us know you’re not just skating around waiting for things to happen. when he was on the 4th line i thought he finally started to play better.
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King John Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
@Hat trick,
He needs a fire lit under his a.. (butt).
Then he could really be something!
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Jay Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 10:05 am
@Hat trick, He had 4 points in 5 games and the first line looked the best it did all season in those 5 games……
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Hat trick Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 11:07 am
@Jay, Well that might be true but if you’re playing on the 1st line you’re bound to get some points. Don’t know if you read the comments that TM said about him but you may want to read them. He got demoted to the 4th line. Speaks volumes imo. If TM was seeing it your way why did he move him then?
Too bad parse got hurt but he is easily replaceable, I’m not sure why some people here think this guy is the second coming, at his very best 20 goals is what he could hope to get and that is not worth a damn as a first line left winger, he has never scored over 24 goals in any season. Move simmonds up and let him develop his legit talent on the first line!
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Hat trick Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
@RiversideKing28, I’m baffled myself. injuries suck wish him the best.
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fortunately TM saw the same thing that many here were also seeing. A players game is not measured by some obscure stat that can be easily misunderstood. Parse’s game has been a real struggle. I hope he recovers quickly from the surgery and is back in the lineup soon.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 10:01 am
@Belexes, What stat? The puck that bounced off of him into the goal?
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I am kind excited to see King. Imagine if he clicked and w/ his size? And maybe he can even get some time w/ Brown &Kopi. And maybe even some PP time. Ok getting carried away I know. Just nice to know if our depth is as good as we hope.
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I don’t think goals scored is a meaningless stat??? As a Kings player I hope everyone on the team plays great but a 26 yr old winger with a career high 12 goals, as our 1rst line left winger. I choose to let the guy earn it before I say he is anywhere near the player the rest of the Kings top 9 or even 10 forwards are. People on here have been killing Brown for years though he nets nearly 30 goals and 300 hits a season, but Parse scores 13 goals in 70 games (as a sniper)and he’s great?
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DannyMeux Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
@RiversideKing28,
yep
:p
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King John Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 9:39 am
@RiversideKing28,
He did all that with limited minutes on 3rd or 4th lines, plus a great +/-. And newcomers need time to develop and fit in.
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hope the surgery and recovery goes well for Parse.
i don’t think Parse is the guy though. TM has already stated that he isn’t seeing what he wanted out of Parse. Maybe Parse can prove us all wrong when he returns. Until then, hope King can fit into the mold.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 10:03 am
@TinaBeana, Ever played hockey with a bad hip? Would you be giving a coach what he wanted if you did?
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Hat trick Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 11:10 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, That to me is another questionable element about him. if he knows he’s not 100% why not say something for the sake of the team as a whole?
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
@Hat trick, You mean like Greener?
Hat trick Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
@Hat trick, honestly cant remember about Greene. this season? last?
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
@Hat trick, That was this season, when he waited to decide he was injured and get surgery. Seems he could have figured it out at the end of last season (when he looks back and admits he was injured.)
@quisp
I guess TM is 7 kinds of stupid too right? Glad he doesn’t watch his team wearing the rose colored glasses that some around here wear.
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Really tough break for Parse.
My fantasy…upgrading JJ with an all-world dman. Probably lose Scuds and JJ…promote DD2. When Poni returns…give Simmers a chance on the top line, maybe Cliffy a shot at the shutdown line.
Your fantasy…trade draft picks/prospects for Zach Parise? I believe Jersey has a few players coming off long term injured reserve within the next month, and thus renewing their salary cap problems (and forcing GM lou to make a bad trade?)
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Sounds like another injury that went undiagnosed for a costly period. Perhaps there needs to be a protocol to reveal such injuries.
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Hat trick Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 11:12 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, agreed. should be pretty easy decision if you’re a team player.
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49puckstothenuts Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
@Hat trick, if everyone here is right it seems like he is/was really on the bubble as to his position on this team this year as well as his future as a NHL player. Also if you’re gonna make it this far in a sports career you’ve got to have some sort of drive and determination – stuff that lets over come injuries and set backs (or at least make you think you can). so, in his case, I don’t see it as an “easy decision” at all to take himself out of the line up.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
@49puckstothenuts, Yeah, I don’t see it as being on him. I see it as being on the organization for not doing some kind of evaluations on players as they join or leave the lineup, at the end of the season, etc.
Hat trick Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
@49puckstothenuts, disagree only you know your health better than anyone. and by skating you’ll definitely know if you’re not feeling 100%. i can understand getting hurt in a game and trying to get through it but knowing it all along not a good idea.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
@Hat trick, but the point is, if you’re a bubble guy, you don’t want to go under the knife then get cut from the roster.