Jonathan Bernier’s postgame thoughts…
(on the first goal, and Drewiske’s deflection…)
BERNIER: “We’ve had some tough luck since the beginning of the season, me and him. Unfortunately it was a goal. So we started off the game 1-0, and we came back but Turco played very good tonight. He made some big saves and we hit the post. It could have been a differen score.”
(on the second goal…)
BERNIER: “I didn’t see it at first. I just saw it at the end. It hit the inside of my blocker and popped right in front. It just feels like, since the beginning of the season, that every mistake I make ends up in the back of my net. I just have to stay positive and my game should come back if I stay positive.”
Your playing at the big boy level now Bernie
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brian spain Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
@brandyn, I don’t understand why Coach Murray plays the second string goalie on the first night of back to back games. he did it last year and the kings lost both games I think three times. what Happened to ONE GAME AT A TIME. win tonight, worry about tmrw. night tmrw night. Play quick and see if he feels good enough to play tmrw night. He was tired last year from his wife giving birth to there first child not too many games…please he is a kid. kids don’t get tired from to much play. Brodour has been playing 70 games his whole career and is the best all time. I hate watching the Kings lose because the Goalie is not in the right position….fire the goalie coach.
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Quisp Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
@brian spain,
Yes, because one goal is usually enough to win.
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roadtripper Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
@brian spain, in these situations, I believe, TM’s saving quick for the divisional matchup.
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Jay Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
@roadtripper, Yup. Divisional match up is MUCH more important and Dallas is equally as strong this season.
JZarris Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
@brian spain,
“He was tired last year from his wife giving birth to there first child not too many games…”
Perhaps an overreach…
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Keep your confidence up, Bernie! We all know you have the skills, so don’t doubt them for a second.
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What I think LA needs is another offensive d man. It’s pretty obvious when Drew is out of the lineup we have nothing back there. Mitchell, Scuderi, Greene, Drewiskie and Harrold are all top notch defensive defenseman, but they can’t make an offensive play from the blue line to save their life. And Jack is, well, Jack. He tries hard but he just doesn’t have “it”. We need someone back there to compliment Drew, and to be our backbone when he’s out of the lineup.
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THEROCKNROLL80S Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
@tantrum4, have you watched Harrold since he has been with the Kings? Harrold is a top-four defensemen who plays a two-way game. Sorry if I come off being mean, but every Kings man thinks of Harrold as this lowlife extra defensemen. Harrold is a solid top-four defensemen who plays a great two way game. He just doesn’t get the opportunity to prove it. I LOVE PETER HARROLD!
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brandyn Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
@THEROCKNROLL80S,
Haha man crush
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tantrum4 Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
@THEROCKNROLL80S,
So where are all his goals and assists? He’s played in 4 games now playing a regular shift and has zero points and one shot on goal. Sorry, he’s hardly a top 4 offensive defensman on any team in the NHL. Not the guy I’m looking for.
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David Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
@tantrum4, Where are all Doughty’s and JJ’s points? They have 5 points between them with no goals this season. And they both play in the top four and see time on the pp.
Just because he doesnt have any points doesnt mean he cant be a solid offensive/PMD defenseman.
tantrum4 Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
@tantrum4,
Right, so now Harrold is as good as Doughty? Wow…
Moondoggie Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
@THEROCKNROLL80S, He is good with the puck, no question…..
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USHA#17 Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
@tantrum4,
When DD returns I would opt for Harrold over DD2
Bernier wasn’t just crying in his beer. DD2 was involved in both the 1st and 3rd Hawks goals.
Deflected the first, helped poke in the 3rd. DD2′s level of play is excellent until those brief but deadly moments when it isn’t
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Drewiske, what a great player not only is he useless with the puck but also away from it. I have never been a fan. We chose that over muzzin nice I would rather play five d than six with drewiske. Also I am tired of old man rivers skating around and always turning the puck over smyth in my eyes is way over rated he is at the end of his career this is a much faster league now the game is way to fast for him.
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brandyn Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
@kevin,
OHHH NOOOOOOOO. THE SKY IS FALLLINGGGGGGGGGGGG
AHHHHHH
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McDonalds Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
@brandyn,
lol i know. I can’t understand why people some people are just generally pissed about this loss. It was certainly frustrating…but we played well. If every single one of our losses this season are like this one, i wouldn’t be to torn up about it. It’s the losses where we play like crap that scare me
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THEROCKNROLL80S Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
@kevin, don’t rag on Drewiske. Drewiske is a solid top-four defensive defensemen that is only to get better with ice time.
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brian spain Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
@THEROCKNROLL80S, Drew is not a top four, he makes many mistakes. he fans on passes very often, and try’s to pass up the middle in the d-zone way to often…when you are in trouble keep on the boards.
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tantrum4 Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
@THEROCKNROLL80S,
Is everyone on the Kings a top 4 defenseman in your eyes?
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BrokeKingsFan Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:07 am
@tantrum4, i was gonna say the same thing.
USHA#17 Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
@THEROCKNROLL80S,
In each game DD2 mistakes have lead to either a dangerous shot or a goal. My favorite so far was standing behind the Kings net, reaching up and batting the puck to the ice in front of Quick and a waiting ‘Cane forward. Classic.
Last night he was on ice for two Chicago goals. It appeared his stick was the last to touch the puck on each goal.
The man plays well then goes into brief bonehead modes which cost the Kings dearly.
His rushes look great but usually end with a weak shot, a missed pass or a lost puck.
With that said, the team is playing well. They have looked great so far. But, this is one area that could improve.
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HBFan Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
@THEROCKNROLL80S,
next time break the Prozacs in half
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bernier will figure it out…he’s too good to not put it together. hopefully in his next start….
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Reassuring words…… Don’t give up. but also GO QUICK!
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If it would have been Quick in goal tonight, there would have been more then 9 posts and they’d all want him gone and have the one who walks on ice replace him, well guess what, JB doesn’t walk on ice in this leagues ice. He has a long ways to go, still.
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USHA#17 Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
@DetroitSons1952,
Well, he wasn’t great but he is good enough to test against Chicago.
Chicago is a good team. Nothing to be embarrassed about then Drewiske/Hossa and Sharp score on you.
But, yes. Quick or Bernier? That questions answered.
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Wow… I hope the Kings don’t lose another game. Any loss seems to be an invitation for screams of doubt and detractors crawl out of the woodwork. We’ve been making it happen so far; tonight we ran into the Stanley Cup Champs w/out Parse or DD. Bernier’s not “off his game”; DD2 isn’t a bust. Smytty’s not past his expiration date. It was a loss. We suck it up and we deal. Not like it’s the first loss we’ve experienced. We stand by our boys and we get ready to watch them take it all out on Dallas!
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tantrum4 Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
@mcsorleyfan,
Welcome to the internet, ha ha. It’s been like this for years with these Kings fans…
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FKA PakiFro Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 8:06 am
@tantrum4, Good call.
If the Kings go 6-3 out of every nine games, they’ll probably be tops in the league at year end. I’m not exactly disappointed by the start this year. What makes it even more exciting is that they could have won the games they lost. On most nights, they’re the odds on favorite to win (through nine games) and on the nights they’re not favorites, its a toss up. (Van, Chi). Its good to be a King(s fan).
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Quisp Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
@mcsorleyfan,
Agreed. 100%
People hear these phrases (“off his game”) and they like to use them whenever they can. We lost. Blame the goalie. That doesn’t even fly in peewees.
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oldthunder Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 7:00 am
@Quisp, as usual Quisp is the voice of reason here. Its 1 game, against the defending champs on the road after a lot of games in not so many nights. Rather than finger pointing/blame/I told you so’s lets start supporting the team and cheering for them tonight vs Dallas.
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fsd1 Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 7:48 am
@Quisp, Agree, I think this was one of our best games yet, after their 2nd goal we took it to them the last 30 minutes of the game, turco was soild and lucky at the same time. Keep playing the same way guys, you’re going to be fine.
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sstephen17 Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:22 am
@Quisp, We lost against Chicago because of goaltending. Turco stole that game.
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Quisp Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am
@sstephen17,
Right, because if it weren’t for Bernier, we would have won that game 1-0.
Kopitar, Stoll, Williams and Brown put together had as many shots as Patrick Sharp by himself.
Turco didn’t have to stop any of the shots that Kopitar (etc.) didn’t take.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:07 am
@Quisp,
Just can’t follow you on this one. The Hawks were outshot.
Quisp Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
@sstephen17,
The Hawks were not outshot by the Kings players who are likely to score. Kopitar, 2 shots. 2. Patrick Sharp, 7. See?
The Hawks shut down who they had to shut down. Kopitar and Brown.
Put it this way: in the kings three losses, Kopitar has one assist and zero goals.
any contribution at all from him turns those losses into wins.
BrokeKingsFan Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:10 am
@mcsorleyfan, well said!
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Addition of a top six forward plus confidence and maturity. Everything else will fall into place
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A well played game from both teams and bad luck hitting pipe and all of a sudden the fans are on suicide watch. FYI the Kings will never go 82-0.
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What a fun game it would have been if Drew and Campbell would have played. Two great teams!!! No worries, as long as we stay relatively healthy we’ll be just fine!!!
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Tough loss for the Kings, but people need to be realistic. Bernier was playing below average tonight. Was he off his game? I don’t see how anyone couldn’t see that he was struggling, not controlling the rebounds, and seemed to be just fighting the puck.
Some of it may have been bad luck, but no one can say that Bernier played up to the level that we’ve seen him able to play.
He’ll learn from these losses (hopefully, how and when to use the poke check). The Kings will have to figure out how to beat this Hawks team if they want to show they are legitimate contenders this year.
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Heres what I have gathered out of the comments from everybody after tonights.. Take a look at these gems from Kings fans:
1) Bernier loses to the Champs. He’s Jason LaBarbera 2.0.
2) Harrold and Drewiske are perennial shut down defenseman.
3) Jonathan Quick never lets in soft goals, and has never had a bad game.
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DetroitSons1952 Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:38 am
@Josh N., All I’m sayin about JB is to many people think he should be the starter, down the road, sure, maybe later this season or next, and only if Quick goes into a tailspin. ALL goaltenders let soft ones in, can’t blame the kid on the first one, I don’t even blame him on the 2nd and on the 3rd he had no chance whatsoever
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McDonalds Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
@DetroitSons1952,
i don’t think he played too badly, but i don’t like that 3rd goal. gotta make that poke check
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WE HAD BAD LUCK TONIGHT DAMN GUYS GET OVER IT! Did any of you see the game??? We were great on the puck…To many post, crossbars bad luck bounce’s…If you think this is a bad team in the slightest you are high and dont know jack about hockey!
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Cynic Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
@Chris Bond,
Dude, this was one of the toughtest games I have had to watch in a LONG time where you do almost everything right, dominate on so many levels, play a symphony on the goal posts and just can’t get the win.
It’s easier to be upset when you have a reason to. I don’t have a reason other than the fact we lost the game. HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE WE AS KINGS FANS COULD SAY THAT!?!?
Our team is going to do GREAT things this season with play like tonight.
The only thing that is going to take some getting used to, although I like it, is having the d-men jump in the play offensively so much. I cringe a little when I see Drewiskie or Harrold behind the goal line, but they do it well now.
Dallas deserves to pay for Chicago’s luck tonight.
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fsd1 Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 7:50 am
@Cynic, Nice post, agree 100%
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OMG!! WE LOST A GAME!! Trade Everyone, Rename the Team and Lets relocate to Hamilton!
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Although Bernier was fighting the puck quite a bit tonight, this 1 goal business isn’t going to be enough to win. I don’t care if Moses was in net, a 1 goal performance asks your goalie to have nothing but a perfect game to get the win. With all the pressure we had, there is no excuse for having 11 guys that can’t finish a play.
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oldthunder Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 7:02 am
@Nyck, Nice jab with Moses, got me laughing. Didn’t Moses part the seas and not close up shop? That is one gaping 5 hole…
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bernie did fine. the loss would of went to quick instead of bernie. this will give quick a rest to win tomorrow.
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The team played another great game.
Last two games featured some of the best board work yet by the Kings. Perhaps the best in years.
Williams has been an inspiration.
Johnson reined himself in and turned his game around. He’s playing great.
Chicago saved their a**es by crowding their net. When the Kings swarmed there was a sea of red in front of Chicago’s net.
Poni may not have the best hands but is proving to be a huge defensive asset and rotates well with activated defensemen.
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I have never been so frustrated by a game in my life. Was seriously getting pissed at all of those close goals from the 2nd on out. Nonetheless, good game, tomorrow I’m a little nervous, seeing how we haven’t showed up at the second of back to backs so far. Lets change that GO KINGS!!!
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So we have a better record than the so called elite teams like Pittsburgh, Detroit, San Jose, Chicago (we have played less games), Washington, New Jersey, and Vancouver and you are all crying as if the Big One has hit LA?
Well lets trade the whole team and start all over again! Bernier could have stopped some of those shots, but he didn’t… Turco got lucky with his posts and well the puck stuck to him like metal and a magnet.
We lost and we had a bad break, but the effort was there, now lets move on to tomorrow game.
Now I know why I hardly post on here no more – too much whining over silly stuff!
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Kings should have started Muzzin to get more offense from the back end while Doughty is out. I bet he starts tonight in Dallas. La needs to put more than 1 goal on the board. Bernier kept them in there until 2 min remaining.
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Hey, he didn’t play as well as he wanted to. We all know that. Still, he could have won if Turco didn’t stand on his head, or if one or two of those great chances was finished. While the difference was goaltending, it’s not like he sucked. He played well enough to win on most nights; it’s just that this wasn’t most nights. The same thing happens to Quick sometimes, and will happen to both of them again.
He’ll get through it.
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Spoken like a true AHL goalie, I hope he doesnt turn out to be another great AHL level goalie like JLB.
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Oh, and for the record, calling him the second coming of LaBabs is completely out of line.
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Look, JB was definitely good enough tonight — holding the champs to two goals in their own building up until the end there — it was good enough to get most wins. If we tie it up, maybe we steal the momentum and win 3-2. But we don’t so we blame JB who is playing well enough for a guy who gets in every third game.
The REAL problem is lack of team speed, being too cute with the puck, not having enough bodies in front of the net, lack of an offensive D-man since DD went out, JJ’s inconsistency, and Smyth suddenly becomming old.
Yet we are playing 667 ball so take all that with a grain of salt. We won’t win the Cup playing this way, but we WILL be a top four seed playing this way…
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 9:58 am
He wasn’t good enough. He was outplayed.
It’s not like he sucked, though. It happens.
Blame the offense all you want, but they put 34 shots on net (Chicago didn’t), and many of them were good ones.
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Quisp Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:08 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
I’ll say it again. One goal. Not enough.
And to repeat what I just posted above,
Shots by Kopitar, Brown, Williams and Stoll, added together = 7.
Shots by Patrick Sharp by himself = 7.
Shots by Poni, Smyth, Clifford and Richie = 14.
Why do you think 42% of our shots came from the left wing?
It’s because Chicago is focusing on the other guys. Because they know the guys getting the majority of the shots are not the guys most likely to score.
It doesn’t matter if you have 34 shots, if Kopitar has 2.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:17 am
@Quisp,
But if one of those Pony, Smyth, Clifford or especially Richie shots go in, particularly during the second or early third period, this game is different–much, much different.
Close is close, is close is close, no matter how you parse it.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:18 am
@Quisp, Turco stood on his head. The Kings outshot them, and earned great chances. I can get over it. It think you should too.
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 10:38 am
@Quisp, Okay…forget I put it that way…it’s just that it is what it is…sure, there were probably five other ways to win the game, but the one the area they were outperformed in was goaltending.
…but it’s no big deal, because the biggest part of the difference was Turco, not Bernier, and certainly not either offense.
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Quisp Reply:
October 28th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
You can keep saying Turco stood on his head all you want. I frankly thought Turco looked clueless on about 5 pucks that went off posts or crossbars.
It’s fine with me if you want to say Turco stole that game. I don’t think he did. I think Kopitar and Brown need to shoot the puck more than once or twice a game.
What I saw last night:
Bernier was fighting himself and the puck all night. It happens.
CLANK (at least four times, Yikes!). It happens.
A very solid performance by the team on Cup winner home ice.
You don’t think the rest of the league is going to watch tape of this game and sweat bullets?
We didn’t win the game, but the last night, the Kings took a step up.
The future is now.
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