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		<title>By: luc20rules</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2010/06/26/futa-on-the-draft/#comment-126414</link>
		<dc:creator>luc20rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jet, Well put I was about to respond, but Jet you covered everything. If Quisp is not available its nice to know you, variable, and others are in the bullpen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jet, Well put I was about to respond, but Jet you covered everything. If Quisp is not available its nice to know you, variable, and others are in the bullpen.</p>
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		<title>By: DLB</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2010/06/26/futa-on-the-draft/#comment-126335</link>
		<dc:creator>DLB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a ‘winners and losers’ article on one of Rich’s favorite sites (puck daddy) and he considered the Kings losers.&quot;

1) That was Ryan Lambert, not Greg Wyshynski; and 2) it proves he knows little about the Kings&#039; organization.  We are one of the deepest teams in the league in terms of players in development.  We can afford to invest in long term projects right now; and really, what player was a &#039;short-term&#039; project at that point in the draft?

It will be difficult to count winners and losers until a few years from now, anyway, but that part of his article made me laugh out loud.

&quot;he wasn’t on the radar of many Kings fans at all&quot;

1) No one expected him to be available.  2) There was a lot of focus on forwards, but he was clearly the best player available in the Kings&#039; scouts&#039; minds.  

I&#039;d say: relax.  There is no way that I, as a mere fan, can judge talent the way these guys who spend all year evaluating this can do, and hardly anyone was in agreement.  Obviously Lambert isn&#039;t a scout, either.  But in this, he&#039;s displayed a rather shallow knowledge of this team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a ‘winners and losers’ article on one of Rich’s favorite sites (puck daddy) and he considered the Kings losers.&#8221;</p>
<p>1) That was Ryan Lambert, not Greg Wyshynski; and 2) it proves he knows little about the Kings&#8217; organization.  We are one of the deepest teams in the league in terms of players in development.  We can afford to invest in long term projects right now; and really, what player was a &#8216;short-term&#8217; project at that point in the draft?</p>
<p>It will be difficult to count winners and losers until a few years from now, anyway, but that part of his article made me laugh out loud.</p>
<p>&#8220;he wasn’t on the radar of many Kings fans at all&#8221;</p>
<p>1) No one expected him to be available.  2) There was a lot of focus on forwards, but he was clearly the best player available in the Kings&#8217; scouts&#8217; minds.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say: relax.  There is no way that I, as a mere fan, can judge talent the way these guys who spend all year evaluating this can do, and hardly anyone was in agreement.  Obviously Lambert isn&#8217;t a scout, either.  But in this, he&#8217;s displayed a rather shallow knowledge of this team.</p>
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		<title>By: number 6</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2010/06/26/futa-on-the-draft/#comment-126123</link>
		<dc:creator>number 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a &#039;winners and losers&#039; article on one of Rich&#039;s favorite sites (puck daddy) and he considered the Kings losers. He felt that Derek Forbort isn&#039;t a bad pick, but that A) the Kings aren&#039;t really advanced enough yet to take on &#039;projects&#039; and B) given the massive occasion of having the draft in LA that it was just &#039;not enough&#039; or something to that affect.
Obviously watching on TV it was clear that there was a real letdown after moving up four spots to get a guy that while he Was on the CSS charts, he wasn&#039;t on the radar of many Kings fans at all.... not even the very knowledgeable ones who frequent this site.
Personally I was really surprised too... that being said I certainly wasn&#039;t expecting a forward who would be able to slot in this year, or even next year for that matter considering where we were drafting.
Thoughts anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a &#8216;winners and losers&#8217; article on one of Rich&#8217;s favorite sites (puck daddy) and he considered the Kings losers. He felt that Derek Forbort isn&#8217;t a bad pick, but that A) the Kings aren&#8217;t really advanced enough yet to take on &#8216;projects&#8217; and B) given the massive occasion of having the draft in LA that it was just &#8216;not enough&#8217; or something to that affect.<br />
Obviously watching on TV it was clear that there was a real letdown after moving up four spots to get a guy that while he Was on the CSS charts, he wasn&#8217;t on the radar of many Kings fans at all&#8230;. not even the very knowledgeable ones who frequent this site.<br />
Personally I was really surprised too&#8230; that being said I certainly wasn&#8217;t expecting a forward who would be able to slot in this year, or even next year for that matter considering where we were drafting.<br />
Thoughts anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: contreras</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2010/06/26/futa-on-the-draft/#comment-125983</link>
		<dc:creator>contreras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL!
Off the charts!,.
DL rubs off on his scouts,.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!<br />
Off the charts!,.<br />
DL rubs off on his scouts,.!</p>
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		<title>By: Godzilla</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2010/06/26/futa-on-the-draft/#comment-125975</link>
		<dc:creator>Godzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jet, 

Simmers (Simmonds) is the real deal. Right, he played on the first line for a limited time but did you also notice Murray comfortably plugging him into any one of the lines.

The kid is a monster on the boards and in the corners. There&#039;s more to a hockey player than just stats and goals (although his numbers are nothing to laugh at being a 2nd/3rd yr player).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jet, </p>
<p>Simmers (Simmonds) is the real deal. Right, he played on the first line for a limited time but did you also notice Murray comfortably plugging him into any one of the lines.</p>
<p>The kid is a monster on the boards and in the corners. There&#8217;s more to a hockey player than just stats and goals (although his numbers are nothing to laugh at being a 2nd/3rd yr player).</p>
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		<title>By: jet</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2010/06/26/futa-on-the-draft/#comment-125951</link>
		<dc:creator>jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 02:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark1967, At first I thought you were joking around as I did above, but in case you were serious, let me help you.

We are now at a point where we have 50 or close to 50 contracts out.  Therefore, this year we moved from a get as many picks and see if some of them will rise from the crowd.  DLs mindset this year went to more of pick the guys that have the highest upside.  For, TT, Gravel, Weal and Kits all have something special about them but need more teaching.  None of these players have a chance to make the Kings in the next two years, but each could bring something special to the team 5 years from now.  DL has made sure the Kings have one of the best prospect training grounds in hockey.  Therefore, the odds are great that we will not only pull two players from this draft, but that they will be impact players.  So, we drafted high risk/high reward (Project) guys this year since they will have extra time to develop.  If Kitsyn comes over and gets on a playoff team in the OHL, then DL should do 5-7 for theft.  He is one of the top few LWs in the draft.

DL traded the 79th pick this year for what is likely to be the 61st pick next year.  The Leafs should finish ahead of the Oilers again.  There is a big difference between 79 and 61 in what is still available skill wise.  Burke was in a bad situation due to the fact he had so few picks.

The real question is what TT is willing to give Wednesday.  I would give him Gordie Woodrck&#039;s old number so that it is very clear to him what is expected from a King.  

Finally, as to value, CS had our picks valued at 9, 16, 30 and 70 in NA, and #6 for Kitsyn on the International side.  We started the draft with picks 19, 49, 59, 79,++++.  If you compare these to the above Central Scouting rankings you should be able to see the value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark1967, At first I thought you were joking around as I did above, but in case you were serious, let me help you.</p>
<p>We are now at a point where we have 50 or close to 50 contracts out.  Therefore, this year we moved from a get as many picks and see if some of them will rise from the crowd.  DLs mindset this year went to more of pick the guys that have the highest upside.  For, TT, Gravel, Weal and Kits all have something special about them but need more teaching.  None of these players have a chance to make the Kings in the next two years, but each could bring something special to the team 5 years from now.  DL has made sure the Kings have one of the best prospect training grounds in hockey.  Therefore, the odds are great that we will not only pull two players from this draft, but that they will be impact players.  So, we drafted high risk/high reward (Project) guys this year since they will have extra time to develop.  If Kitsyn comes over and gets on a playoff team in the OHL, then DL should do 5-7 for theft.  He is one of the top few LWs in the draft.</p>
<p>DL traded the 79th pick this year for what is likely to be the 61st pick next year.  The Leafs should finish ahead of the Oilers again.  There is a big difference between 79 and 61 in what is still available skill wise.  Burke was in a bad situation due to the fact he had so few picks.</p>
<p>The real question is what TT is willing to give Wednesday.  I would give him Gordie Woodrck&#8217;s old number so that it is very clear to him what is expected from a King.  </p>
<p>Finally, as to value, CS had our picks valued at 9, 16, 30 and 70 in NA, and #6 for Kitsyn on the International side.  We started the draft with picks 19, 49, 59, 79,++++.  If you compare these to the above Central Scouting rankings you should be able to see the value.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark1967</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark1967</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich:
The Kings talked about the Draft being the &quot;Super Bowl&quot; for the scouts. Well if that was there &quot;Super Bowl&quot; performance we have a long way to go....Fowler was out there a &quot;Long&quot; time we couldn&#039;t come up with a offer to move up to get him? What we gave up to Florida to move up (4) spots I would of thought we could of done the same with another player or 3rd or 4th choice thrown in. We gave away all those choices later. And trading your 3rd rounder to Toronto for nothing extra? Was DL trying to kiss and make up with Brian Burke? Is it a DL requirement to draft one player 5&#039;10&quot; or less every draft? Weal, Azvedo, Roe, Kozun, Moller, etc... All are great Junior players but really except for Moller  the other guys are 5&#039; 8&quot; and Weal is barley 5&#039; 7&quot;... Are we going for the &quot;Smurf Line&quot; of the NY Rangers of the 80&#039;s? This are &quot;Project&quot; picks and I can live with that.. They may turn out well but we always seem to over pay to move up a few spots and never seem to get equal value back... If you look at the drafts the last three years and see how many choice we had, the players we gave up to aquire those choices, and you have to look at the trades and than the trades on draft day I think you will see things a little differently... I am just asking Rich...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich:<br />
The Kings talked about the Draft being the &#8220;Super Bowl&#8221; for the scouts. Well if that was there &#8220;Super Bowl&#8221; performance we have a long way to go&#8230;.Fowler was out there a &#8220;Long&#8221; time we couldn&#8217;t come up with a offer to move up to get him? What we gave up to Florida to move up (4) spots I would of thought we could of done the same with another player or 3rd or 4th choice thrown in. We gave away all those choices later. And trading your 3rd rounder to Toronto for nothing extra? Was DL trying to kiss and make up with Brian Burke? Is it a DL requirement to draft one player 5&#8217;10&#8243; or less every draft? Weal, Azvedo, Roe, Kozun, Moller, etc&#8230; All are great Junior players but really except for Moller  the other guys are 5&#8242; 8&#8243; and Weal is barley 5&#8242; 7&#8243;&#8230; Are we going for the &#8220;Smurf Line&#8221; of the NY Rangers of the 80&#8242;s? This are &#8220;Project&#8221; picks and I can live with that.. They may turn out well but we always seem to over pay to move up a few spots and never seem to get equal value back&#8230; If you look at the drafts the last three years and see how many choice we had, the players we gave up to aquire those choices, and you have to look at the trades and than the trades on draft day I think you will see things a little differently&#8230; I am just asking Rich&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2010/06/26/futa-on-the-draft/#comment-125920</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the later rounds of the Draft, the group I was in started specifically watching groups of playres/parents just to catch that &quot;moment&quot; where they realized they were getting picked. It was really great to see the joy in everyone&#039;s face - Mom crying, etc.

What we weren&#039;t really prepared for was what happened after pick 210 when some of the players didn&#039;t get picked at all. Those kids were devastated, and some got really emotional (sometimes it&#039;s easy to forget how young these kids are).

One kid in particular was really having a hard time with it, and was being consoled by his family when someone approached him with a jersey and talked to him for awhile. They shook hands, and eventually the kid seemed to be a little calmed down. We didn&#039;t quite understand what we had just watched at the time; but now I wonder whether he was being offered a tryout to some team&#039;s training/development camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the later rounds of the Draft, the group I was in started specifically watching groups of playres/parents just to catch that &#8220;moment&#8221; where they realized they were getting picked. It was really great to see the joy in everyone&#8217;s face &#8211; Mom crying, etc.</p>
<p>What we weren&#8217;t really prepared for was what happened after pick 210 when some of the players didn&#8217;t get picked at all. Those kids were devastated, and some got really emotional (sometimes it&#8217;s easy to forget how young these kids are).</p>
<p>One kid in particular was really having a hard time with it, and was being consoled by his family when someone approached him with a jersey and talked to him for awhile. They shook hands, and eventually the kid seemed to be a little calmed down. We didn&#8217;t quite understand what we had just watched at the time; but now I wonder whether he was being offered a tryout to some team&#8217;s training/development camp.</p>
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		<title>By: jet</title>
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		<dc:creator>jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Futa compares the scouting to that done for Simmonds.  Well, look how that turned out.  He was drafted two years ago and he could barely hang on to a first line spot on a 100+point team.

CSS is still asking, how do you spell that last name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Futa compares the scouting to that done for Simmonds.  Well, look how that turned out.  He was drafted two years ago and he could barely hang on to a first line spot on a 100+point team.</p>
<p>CSS is still asking, how do you spell that last name.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich, there was a story that Brian Burke was offered a 1st for Luke Schenn. Can you find out if it was Lombardi who offered it?

Since Brayden is Kings property and they drafted a L. Schenn-ish player, it got me wondering if it was Lombardi who offered the 1st.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich, there was a story that Brian Burke was offered a 1st for Luke Schenn. Can you find out if it was Lombardi who offered it?</p>
<p>Since Brayden is Kings property and they drafted a L. Schenn-ish player, it got me wondering if it was Lombardi who offered the 1st.</p>
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