Jonathan Quick will start in goal tonight and Jonathan Bernier, called up under emergency circumstances will back up Quick and will start tomorrow in Nashville. Terry Murray said Erik Ersberg has a strained back.
The forwards are expected to skate as follows tonight…
Smyth-Kopitar-Halpern
Frolov-Stoll-Brown
Modin-Handzus-Williams
Parse-Richardson-Simmonds
On defense, Matt Greene replaces Randy Jones, who has an elbow injury. Scratches are expected to be Clune, Ivanans, Drewiske and Jones. More from the morning skate to come…
I like it.
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OneTimer Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
@AZ King,
Ditto. Already can’t wait for tomorrow’s game again them pesky Pred’s!
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Halpern on the first line?
Good grief.
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Kris Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:17 am
@Jonathan, I’m with you on that. Kinda worried about this one.
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Stuart Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:19 am
@Kris, I said it a couple of days ago, TM must feel that if Halpy can get jump started, he’ll pay dividends in the playoffs. Only thing I can think of…
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NOW IMPRESSED Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:27 am
@Jonathan, Maybe its a demotion for Smyth and Kopitar and its not the 1st line.
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dtownmbrown Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
@NOW IMPRESSED,
DL keeps talking about how Halpern thrived with Lecavalier and Malone in TB, so maybe this is a shot for him to try and keep up with another top line..
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SDgolfer Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:44 am
@Jonathan, Halpern was playing with Vinny in TB
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justlu Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
@SDgolfer,
Yeah he played on the #1 line for a team that is 3 pts ahead of the worst team in the eastern conference. He only had 9g and 7a playing on that #1 line and has only had one point since the middle of January. Yeah he’s the scoring answer we need. Those are the types of numbers I’m looking for on my #1 line. What a joke.
Halpern has done nothing to EARN his spot on the #1 line and I think this is part of what Dustin Brown is talking about when he says B.S.
This musical chairs with the lines in order to find a fit with the team is ridiculous by TM. Modin and Halpern should be 4th liners along with Clune. Put Simmonds, Handzus, and Fro back together on the 3 line. Put Williams, Kopi, and Smyth back together for more than a period. Part of being prepared for a game is having familiarity with your line mates. It’s BS coming into every game with a different line combo.
A coach changing his lines more often than he changes underwear is a coach that is second guessing himself. TM is showing a lack of confidence and this is translating into poor performances on the ice.
And how about a little emotion behind the bench did you see when TM lost it on the roughing call on JJ in the Col game. The Kings came out and played with some real fire in the 2nd and 3rd after their coach showed some emotion. Being deadpan all the time isn’t going to help motivate these guys. Get in some faces and stop saying everything is fine because the only person that beleives it is TM.
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Chewy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
@justlu,
I agree with not changing the lines every game…I’ve been playing hockey for 20 years now and having the same line mates that your comfortable with is huge…I know TM has a lot of experience but I’m not sure why he doesn’t let them work through it and keep em together…I’m not saying he’s doing a bad job, but sometimes the coaching staff needs to look in the mirror as well
LMAO LMAO LMAO
All of the huffin and puffin and it turns out Ersberg is hurt….
classic
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macdup Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:16 am
@deelo, HAHA, I mean not to laugh at EE’s back but us Kings fans our a fragile bunch. I was freaking out too.
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Lv is the way Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
@deelo, i am laughing with you. How can someone get a injured back by sitting on the pine..? LOL.. So JB will get the start tomorrow, is that what i am taking here by the call up..?
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VegasHockey Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:54 am
@Lv is the way,
Even a goalie that plays under 10 games a year still practices with the team at every practice. It’s not like they’re on the bench in practice too. Ask Chris Terreri, he knows all about it.
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Bob Bobson Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
@deelo, Ha ! This is the best reason for Bernier to get called up. Not many injury reasons were guessed in the last thread.
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Jay Wells Fan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
@deelo, allegedly…
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I'm Just Saying" Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
@Jay Wells Fan, Call it what it rally is!
Ersberg has HURT FEELINGS!
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David Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
@I’m Just Saying”,
bahahaha
Well.
I feel like a nervous, hen-pecked rooster, out before the sun comes up…
So much for that.
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
…and i feel like a nervous sun before the hen-pecked rooster comes out of the barn…
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HawKings Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:33 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, And I feel like a nervous chicken before the farmer decides what’s for dinner, beef or ….chicken.
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MR King Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:45 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
I feel like a cow past it’s milking prime and its time for a trip to the slaughterhouse.
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OneTimer Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
I feel like the nervous milkman, who once the farmer realizes his cow actually can still produce milk … there’s really no reason I should be visiting his wife at the door while he’s out tending the hens.
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Nitrohockey Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
@OneTimer, I feel the the chicken what got caught in the tractor’s nuts!
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LOL. Classic.
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Interesting to see Halpern on the ‘first’ line but glad that Jones is out and Greene is back.
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Does this mean that Harrold is on D? Hopefully paired with JJ.
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I would prefer to make Frolov a healthy scratch and have Bernier on the second line with Stoll and Brown. I’m sure he can fart around with the puck in the corners just as well as Frolov does.
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Jamesonafterawin Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
@Jammers, LOL LOL
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leo4kings Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
@Jammers, Very unjust comment about FRO. Makes no sense and no backing. You don’t like the guy’s looks or where he comes from is one thing, but don’t knock team’s 4 best scorer and top 3 leading scorer in past 3 years for just sake of throwing something out there.
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John Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
@Jammers,
NOBODY “fart(s) around with the puck in the corners just as well as Frolov does”!!!
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P.S. Look for Halpern and Simmonds to switch by the 6 minute mark of period two.
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Cynic Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:14 am
@Marc Nathan,
Very brave to give Halpern the WHOLE 1st period…
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:16 am
@Marc Nathan,
probably…
we should all guess how the lines will end up before the night is over…
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HA! Ranford rode Ersberg too much! Even a good donkey needs a rest once in a while…
LOL!
Halpern on the right side, line #1? I know he had a better game last game, but to go from 4th to 1st line?!?! (Confused)
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USHA#17 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
@Cynic,
Well, considering the way things have gone lately, any better ideas?
…wait, wait, wait…let me rephrase; Why not?
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I'm Just Saying" Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
@USHA#17, Nice move the other way ..Richie and Simmonds who where responsible for at least 1 -2 points a game while they were up there are moved again..Go figure
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Halpern did spend time on the 1st unit in Tampa allong Lecavallier and St. Louis this season. From what I saw, he was able to create some options for Vinny and Marty to do work.
At this point I don’t see the harm in this, given that the other line combos have not worked up to this point. As we all know, TM does like to make mid-game line adjustments.
We’ve been winning all year long, and the second we start loosing some games the negativity comes out. Lets get some support going for our team! How about it?
Watch party @ Hooters in Santa Monica!
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VanKingsFan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:19 am
@maraudking,
The only harm I see is that with those lines… look at where it got Tampa Bay in the standings….
Not to hate though, I really like Halpern as a player and it could be just what he needs to kick his game in the ass
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maraudking Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
@VanKingsFan,
I’ll echo another comment on here when I say that I he can’t be worse than JW since he’s been back from injury.
I don’t think he is going to be a mainstay in the top 6, but I do like the shake up.
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tantrum4 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
@VanKingsFan,
I’m pretty sure Halpern has nothing to do with where Tampa is in the standings. Just like he’ll have nothing to do with us winning tonight or not. It’s a TEAM game.
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RJC76 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
@tantrum4,
Exaclty
this team better start to get it together…
i don’t think tm has many line combos left at his disposal…
RICH…
maybe we should have a “you guess the lines” contest before every game…
trying to find those combos that will be consistently effective down the stretch and into the playoffs is becoming a concern…
in spite of what tm says, i don’t think you can keep this type of juggling up…but it’s really up to the players…and really no one line…consistently…has been that good where tm has been pleased to keep them together for more than a two to three games stretch…
the rest of our season starts today…right..?!?!
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maraudking Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:17 am
@variable,
If we guess right, we should get to suit up as well.
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
@maraudking,
…or win prizes like…:
- serve a two minute minor for one of the kings players…
- get to fill out tm’s line up card in ink…
- serve a jq’s back up…
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maraudking Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
@variable,
Works for me.
Rich, can we pass this along to DL and Luc to see what can be done about this?
number 6 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:36 am
@variable,
Like the guy says to his girlfriend in the Bud Light commercial……. “ditto”
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I was hoping Bernier would get the call against Nashville – nice. With the recent bad luck against them, it will be nice to mix it up a bit and maybe steal a point or two. As for Halpern, he honestly couldn’t be any less productive than Williams since his return, so why not?
The injury to Jones could be a blessing in disguise. I would take Harrold or Whiskey as the #6 D-man any day over Jones.
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(yes I’m going to scream)
SO THERE YOU GO ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO JUMPED TO CONCLUSIONS! DID I NOT SAY THERE’S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE DON’T KNOW AND INSTEAD OF STIRRING THE POT WE SHOULD WAIT FOR THE STORY?
/rant
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:33 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
YES.
I have the right to be nervous…
I do, I do, I do!
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Sometimes the speculation here makes me more nervous than the occasional losing streak.
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
yes u did…:)
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fancy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Spurious injuries,eh???
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There must be a lot of Hollywood writer fans on this site. So much drama. Haha
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:28 am
@Dayman,
you might be right…
but the kings are causing much of their own stress…
i like it better when they were playing like it was “must see” t.v….at least everybody smiles at the end, much like every episode of CHiPs…:)
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:36 am
@variable,
Ahhh, Ponchorella and his big, big white teeth!
And, the I5-Pomona freeway at sunrise, back when nobody drove on it. Don’t know which was brighter, the sun or Ponch’s teeth…
–The Memories!–
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:44 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
i thought they used the 118 a lot, too…
That said, I like taking the opportunity to use Bernier in the back-to-back, since he’s available.
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False alarm, get well Iceberg!
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i dont see why tm keeps the first line together, chemistry takes time to develop… its not like you can just throw everyone around always… jeez i cant wait till next year when we’ll have a more solid linup(that is if dl picks up his man/men, whoever they may be)
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Here I thought something dramatic was going on, and all it turns out to be is a creaky back. How boring. Will be good to see what Bernier can do, though.
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R.E.M. Murray Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
@rick,
Ahhh, were you one of the pour saps that didn’t have Center Ice when the Kings last played at Dallas?
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Ersberg strained his back huh? I guess when they can him after the season it’ll be because he decided to pursue other options.
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ok it all makes sense now EE being hurt i get why JB is here. the lines i think are not that great i mean we are trying to win right? Why would you put someone cold like Halpern with kopi and smyth i don’t know anymore. 4th line has been playing better than the 1st line but whatever maybe we will see fro benched all 3rd period again who knows anymore
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I know that Simmonds is everyone’s favorite on here, but let’s all admit he has been invisible lately. Heck, if he were Frolov he would be sitting in the press box tonight. Not sure what this latest move does for him, but here’s hoping he gets his mojo back.
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VanKingsFan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:33 am
@rick,
true say Rick… he is a little bit untouchable among the fan base, but he hasnt made much of an impact lately. We need him playing with desperation, with something to prove.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
@rick, I don’t buy that Simmonds has been invisible. No stats ≠ invisible.
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Jammers Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:37 am
@rick,
I thought Frolov was everyone’s favorite on here.
When are the Kings going to auction off a date with Heidi at Tommy’s?
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Space_Shot Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:37 am
@rick,
He’s been invisible since December. Just not playing with the same confidence and attack mentality since he got his knee “cleaned up.”
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am
@rick,
Don’t be surprised if Simmonds has knee surgery, after the season…
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:44 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
bingo….you are correct sir…!
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Kevco Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
@rick, Hes not invisible, he has been sitting in the box too much the last few games.
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Belexes Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
@Kevco,
He’ll probably be visible when he drops the Mitts with John Scott, them He’ll spend a lil time on the injured list.
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I like halpern on 1st line.It Gives Wiilams a chance to work on his timming and less physical pressure since he is lined up with two big dudes.But,I am more excited about our second line. If TM does not change them up again during the game. Brown is the physical force on that line, Fro is the Talent and Stoll the speedster. Right combination. If I was a betting man, I will bet this line will produce tonight.
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It’ll be dangerous to not have Ivanans suited up for this game. If Boogaard and Scott start roughing it up, no one will be able to match up with them. You might see OD and Greene get killed trying to stand up to them.
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maraudking Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:30 am
@Mikko Makela,
I agree. With the Boogieman playing, it may be a good idea to dress Ivanans. But I think the Kings have to worry about winning games, rather than the potential heavyweight bout between Boogie and Ivanans
no disrespect. Lets hope Greenie doesn’t have to square up with him
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:41 am
@maraudking,
Didn’t Boo Boy get all muffed up and bloody after a fight recently? Didn’t he miss a game or two? Not to say he isn’t healthy, now…
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Mikko Makela Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
Yeah, Boogaard got tweaked in his fight with D.J. King a few weeks back. But, he’s back in the line-up. But, don’t under-estimate John Scott. Scott is even a more dangerous fighter than Boogaard, in my opinion.
leo4kings Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:35 am
@Mikko Makela, Agree. Ivanans should be in tonight’s line up on. In place of Parse. Richardson and Symms cover the boards and speed and he can camp in front of the net and do dropp the gloves when needed.
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Thank-you Ersberg good timing on this “injury”!
Quick, play better or find a nice seat on the bench and get comfortable.
Halpern has been a 1st line player in the past and can be just as effective as Justin Williams. Murray likes to switch his line combos during the game as well and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Williams & Halpern switch spots. What this does though, is it puts other line combos together that have had success.
Parse-Richardson-Simmonds, was the Kings best line during Smyth’s injury. Handzus & Modin have played well together. Williams is coming along very very slowly as was expected. Frolov, Stoll, Brown have had success in the past as well. Smyth & Kopitar are the 2 players on this team that can adapt.
Going from 4th line to 1st line isn’t a surprise, Purcell did the same thing. Halpern hasn’t been any worse than Teddy.
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King John Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
@KingFanMGM,
Parse does well when he plays with good players. But for a long time now TM sticks him on a 4th line with no-name players for 5 minutes a game.
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those lines are weird.
but Greene instead of Jones. it’s a miracle!
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i skimmed over the 160+ (at the time of this post) on the previous thread re: bernier…
i wonder if someone of you guys will now wait to get the full story before launching yr salvos…
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:36 am
@variable, prolly not!
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number 6 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:42 am
@variable,
my dear variable….. what would this blog be without drama?
…… easier on the eyes and psyche to begin with
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:50 am
@number 6,
lol…
yr right…!
eating the meal before it is served tastes better to a few too many…
but hey…what’s an entre’ without some cru de’tae…?!?!
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number 6 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:53 am
@variable,
I love that….. as I used to live in Paris…. too funny!
Oh god, what would’ve happened had we just kept on that upward trajectory and nice smooth transition to the playoffs? Well, what fun would That be when we go onto our beloved blog?
which brings back the point that for a team that’s never done that, it’s unlikely to be so straight forward.
BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:47 am
@variable,
Ain’t got no troubles in my life
No foolish dream to make me cry.
I’m never frightened or worried,
I know I’ll always get by.
I heat up (I heat up)
I cool down (I cool down)
When something gets in my way I go round it.
Don’t let life get me down
Gonna take life the way that I found it.
I got the rooster in me,
I got the rooster in me,
I got the rooster in me!
Good Ole Kiki Dee
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:52 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
in this instance, as long as you didn’t break out the alice in chains, you will never be snuffed out here, B…:)
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AZ King Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:49 am
@variable
Not a chance. It’s no fun to base things on real fact when it’s so much easier to just make things up or create panic for no real reason.
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:51 am
@AZ King,
and that’s why we have TMZ, right…?!
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Jones has an “elbow injury”. *WINK WINK
Ersberg has a “back injury”. *WINK WINK*
read this as: Our defence and goaltending has sucked and Deano dropped the hammer to get our stud from the minors as insurance and to get that pilon of a d-man out of the lineup. Way to go Deano!!
How do you think the conversation goes:
Deano: Hey Jonese hows your elbow feeling?
Jones: Huh, my elbow is fine Dean
Deano: No it looks swollen and it probably going to keep you out for awhile.
Jones: Ah, ok anything for the team boss
Deano: That’s the attitude I like young man keep it up
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Jammers Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:38 am
@concussionman02,
When is Frolov going to get an “injury?”
Not soon enough.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:39 am
@concussionman02, I’d say it’s a good bet Bernier is back in Manchester with a few games to spare before the playoffs (if not much sooner), as the staff considers Manchester’s playoffs to be important for the personnel there, and if that doesn’t imply Bernier too, him too.
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concussionman02 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:47 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
I agree with you but the big club comes first, always has and always will. Everyones job depends on what happens in LA not in Manchester, and right now we are sh*ting the bed and something needed to be done to shake it up a little. I think everyone would love to see Bernier win in the AHL but the top priority is getting into the playoffs in the NHL.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
@concussionman02, Bernier is going back to Manchester, unless Ersberg or Quick breaks his back.
R.E.M. Murray Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
They’ll be in good hands with Zatkoff
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:42 am
@concussionman02,
i don’t think our team is run by a totalitarian dictator…or a shady underworld figure…
sure…dl and tm talk…but i can’t ever imagine, with perhaps the lone exception being when jb made his debut this year at dallas, that d.l. has ever demanded someone to play or not…and i imagine if tm was “ordered” to start or sit someone without his approval, he would’ve resigned or been fired by now…
it doesn’t work that way…not here, at least…thankfully…
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concussionman02 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:56 am
@variable,
You wouldn’t think so but these “injuries” at this time are suspect.
Jones – By far the worst d-man suddenly gets an elbow injury that is suddenly reported two days later and just when Greene is ready to come back.
Ersberg – Shakey back up that rarley plays suddenly get a back injury, again reported days after he last played part of a game and after Bernier comes up and jumps over him to a starting spot and plays a good game and gets the win.
Again, maybe what you say is right but this looks odd to me.
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
@concussionman02,
Ever watch what happens to an ECHL roster?
Ever see the movie, ‘Slap Shot’?
Go into the corner and feel shame…
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
@concussionman02, There’s a plausible but silly claim for Ersberg, but for Jonesy, all he had to do was take him out.
Answer: no.
Chi Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:48 am
@concussionman02, lol.
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That’s truly too bad for EE as it did seem like he was going to get a shot in one of these 2 back-to-back games.
But I look forward to seeing Bernier for any reason.
Why is it, though, that my first thought at seeing Bernier’s call-up was that it must have been due to an injury? Then I saw all the other semi-informed freak-outs on the other thread, LOL
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:42 am
@Pumpernicholl, it’s Shamu being Shamu. My gut feeling was injury too, but the speculation (especially given the tip that we’d hear more) was pointless.
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VanKingsFan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:58 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
give people a break, they are bored (at work most likely) with nothing to do but speculate.
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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
@VanKingsFan, I find it harmful. I hope the players don’t read the comments, but I’d guess a couple do.
I’d be eager to hear about the “injury” from Ersberg himself. My guess is, he will not be available for interview. And he will then make a rapid recovery, so Bernier can go back to Manchester right after his start.
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AZ King Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:53 am
@Simmer,
It really isn’t beyond the scope of reality to think that EE really has an injury. Quick supposedly injured his back in practice over the Olympics. What you’re saying might be true, but I don’t see the need to cover it up. Who are they trying to fool?
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Simmer Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:54 am
I think they’re just trying to get around the call-up limitations. If it’s just a straight call-up, we lose one of our three remaining. If it’s an “emergency”, we get it for free. I suspect there are a lot of quote-unquote “injuries” this time of year, to justify short-term call-ups.
Could be wrong…
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AZ King Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
@Simmer
Good point, I actually forgot about that. I wonder if there is any sort of process to declaring a player injured? Is it as simple as saying so-and-so is hurt and we need to do an emergency call up?
What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
@Simmer, I think that tone sucks. Even if it were completely fraudulent (and let me make it clear, I do not believe it is!), it goes best unsaid.
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Simmer Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?,
I suspect it’s how the game is played. Again, it’s been a long time since we’ve had to worry about late-season maneuverings, so it’s just speculation. But I doubt they require a league physical every time a player gets “injured”…
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
@Simmer,
why would any player who is fighting for his position fake an injury…?
why would any player fake an injury at all…?
how would a player who fakes an injury get the respect from his players and his coaching staff ever again…?
why would anyone in any organization dig themselves into such a terrible situation with their players to the point where instead of being honest with one another, they would concoct some cockamanie scheme about an injury…?
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Simmer Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
@variable,
I don’t think anyone is faking anything. I think they wanted to call Bernier up for the start, but they didn’t want to waste one of their limited late-season call-ups. So they tabbed Ersberg as “injured”.
Pretending like this is “fraudulent” or “terrible” or “cockamamie” would be similar to a basketball coach whining about the other team fouling his players at the end of the game.
“We were up by four, and the game should’ve been over. But they kept pretending to go for the ball, and fouling us on purpose! Those dishonest bastards!!”
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
@Simmer,
i just don’t think players “fake” injuries…
i just don’t think gm’s and coaches ask players to say that they are hurt in lieu of calling someone else up…
maybe i’m ultra-naive when it comes to these situations…
but ee played extremely well in reserve for quick the other night…and he gave us every indication that he was back to form…
so why would we call up jb if ee wasn’t really hurt…?
i just don’t think that dl/tm would do those things…i happen to believe that even though you are correct in saying that they probably want to save their three remaining call-ups, i don’t think that they devised a plan to accommodate it…
and i do think making up injuries or stories…for any reason…is wrong, should not be tolerated by the league and those who partake in such actions should be heavily fined…
Simmer Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
You may be right. And I suspect there’s probably some period of time that an “injured” player must remain sidelined – like the injured reserves and disabled lists of the NFL and MLB.
But honestly, if there’s a loophole, I’m sure teams exploit it. And if all of the other teams are exploiting it, then you put yourself at a disadvantage by being the only honest man.
Again – it’s absolutely no different than the unintentional intentional fouls at the end of the basketball game. Truly honest coaches would never be able to come back in the last 30 seconds of a game…
variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
@Simmer,
yr loophole point is closer to the truth…
i think that we could get into a hair-splitting debate as to what is a flat-out fabricated story vs. an inkling of truth…
but, to be fair, i understand why many would think that teams collude with their own players in situations where roster limits and actions are monitored or under regulation…
now, if this was the playoffs, yr point probably becomes closer to the truth…
i will say this, though, when the playoffs begin…there is more mystery and suspicion surrounding where a player’s injury is than the whereabouts of bin laden…
i just want to believe that there is a standard of ethics and conduct that our organization holds itself up to…
but yr probably right when you say that given the opportunity, many caches/gm’s would probably exploit any rule or caveat to their advantage…
i just don’t think it pertains here…
on a slightly funnier note…:
anybody get to watch jim playfair (ironic name) go ballistic over the weekend…?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrkR7ih6f3M
he did it to don koharski’s son, jamie….
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
@V,
Funny!
I guess he needs to work on his stick skills.
Took him at least ten whacks to break the second stick…
–heheeheheheheehehehehe!–
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
love when he goes hulk hogan…:)
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ducksuck Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
@variable,
really good video love when coaches freak out
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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
@ducksuck,
Check this out!
I saw this one live…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdKI4Fg2hVA
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
haha…that’s a good one…
i can’t figure out why any coach wants to throw their own team’s equipment on the ice…
if it breaks, it cost money…perhaps a players “lucky” stick…
if i was a coach and i had a postal moment, i would probably go after the other team’s equipment…
i would have a assistant equipment boy be on standby to poach their stash as soon as i gave the bat signal…
it would definitely be original..!
ducksuck Reply:
April 1st, 2010 at 12:57 pm
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
Thank you I haven’t laughed that hard in so long wow so good when he kicks the Gatorade cooler on the ice!! still laughing about it
pr0cess Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
@ducksuck, Any of you remember Webster and how he threw sticks on the ice!!
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variable Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
@pr0cess,
webster, melrose, robinson and crawford were probably the angriest kings coaches…
R.E.M. Murray Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
@variable,
Look at the player sitting to Playfair’s left on the bench. He is trying not to laugh.
Thanks to PJ Stock on Scoreboard Saturday for pointing that out.
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Maybe this is what Halpern needs to find his game and prove his worth. I don’t have a problem with it at all.
I also like JQ starting tonight and JB tomorrow.
I feel a win coming on tonight, Go Kings!
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ducksuck Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
@Kings Fan In Idaho,
I agree, just hope Kopi and Smyth don’t play bad because of it really need those 2 points more than Halpern finding his game.
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Coaches change lines all the time. Sharks big line of Marleau-Thorton-Heatly got split into 2 different lines for a little, and now they are all on different lines.
point being that a coach HAS to use all tools necessary when things aren’t going well.
if it ain’t broke-don’t fix it…if it is broke-fix it
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leo4kings Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
@Todd M., yes, but in order to see if it is fixed, u need to give it a chance rather than jump right on fixing it again.
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Todd M. Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
@leo4kings,
I agree, but it may be that TM doesn’t like what he saw in a cpl of the line combos.
I also like moving Halpern up with Kopi and Smyth. 2 pts are important but getting Halpern going is better for the BIG picture (playoffs)
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leo4kings Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
@Todd M., u said it. We need these 2 points.
So, the wife and I will be going to the game tomorrow night here in Nashville, and I am excited to get to see Bernier in person!!
Hopefully he will be a wall and the Kings will beat down those friggin Preds.
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DL said it in his interview. We got Halpern but have no idea where or how to play him.
This is his shot to contribute before the playoffs.
If he still can’t get going, he’ll be viewing the games from above and someone else will ge the opportunity.
Well that settles that issue with Ersberg. I Don’t really care, I just want Quick/Bernier to play lights out and win a couple of games for us.
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Sort of wish we had a solid 6th d-man for the playoffs….especially with Greene hurting…but I guess everyone has nagging injuries this time of year. Time for Jones, Harrold or DD to step up!!
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runningman Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
@Cup B4 I Die,
Gauthier is available to pick up. That should solve the depth problem.
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TM,
you arernt getting it here…your top line needs to play together…Halbum isn’t the answer here…Simmonds or Richie are a much better fit if you have to continue to mess with lines…Against Minnesota you have no one against Scott and Boogard do you think it will be another game of manhandling? No one to stop them. greener is hurt but going to play as I said O’die is your 2nd best defenseman and hands are tied and Clune and Raitis are scratches… maybe the trainer will be the one to protect these guys. If you need that much scoring from your energy line you’re in deep trouble. turn in your keys!
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I dunno, saw EE after the game Saturday and he looked perfectly fine. If he strained his back it must have happened at home. Maybe he’s a chubby chaser??
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Playing the team with the top heavyweights in the league (John Scott, Derek Boogaard) yeah, this should go well. Maybe TM feels that the Wild will invoke the Mercy rule on us?? Idk, should be a long nite, lets see what King gets worked by these 2.
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I like the 4th line & I’m sure they will get some minutes. We won’t get the last change being an away game so TM can put them guys out & not worry about matching up.
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I don’t why TM can’t be normal with his lines:
Smyth – Kopi – Williams
Richardson – Stoll – Brown
Frolov – Handzus – Simmonds
Miscellaneous – Miscellaneous – Miscellaneous
Does it really matter who’s on the 4th line…NO…it hasn’t made a difference all year, and that’s when we’ve had the most success.
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maraudking Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
@bmova,
4th lines are just as important. Granted those players may not get as much ice time, but they often serve as an energy line, or some kind of shutdown line. You need guys who can crash, bang, and create some kind of energy to take some pressure off of the top 6. A good solid 4th line can make the difference in a 7 game series.
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I don’t understand the point in calling up in my mind, the better goaltender, to sit on the bench, as our tired, struggling one has to swallow another friggin start. If Quick tears it up and shuts me up great, but I think if you can possibily earn yourself another start, Bernier did it in Dallas.
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Hello last game.
Whos going to step up?
OD? No.
Simmonds? Gives up 50LBS~
Clune? Boogaard or Scott will ruin him.
Horrible move not playing raitis and giving Parse the ice time.
Going to be just like the dallas game where everyone will get tossed around.
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Mark Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
@Mark,
Even If clune would be playing , it wouldnt be smart.
Play raitis to step up.
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I don’t understand why simmonds isn’t on the top. put halpern on the third with modin and zues
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Post game: interesting it’s like the lines were turned upside down- 4th became 1st, 3rd became 2nd etc
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