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Bernier to Kings

Posted by Rich Hammond on 29 March 2010, 7:42 am

Shortly, the Kings will announce that goalie Jonathan Bernier has been called up from Manchester of the AHL. Bernier is expected to be with the Kings in St. Paul today and, a bit later, I’ll have more information on exactly what Bernier’s role with the team is expected to be. Since he was with the Kings and beat Dallas 2-1 in a shootout on March 12, Bernier has appeared in six games with Manchester and allowed a total of 12 goals.

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wirespeed14 says:

March 29, 2010 at 7:47 am

Heh. Glad it’s only ‘urgency’ and not ‘panic’…

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garry Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:26 am
@wirespeed14, This is the correct move! You could see that Qick was not the same since the Olympic break. Now if we would bring up Wesgarth along with a few other’s from the Monarchs to give us some jewbreakers and speed.

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VegasHockey Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:47 am
@garry,

Westgarth is now anti-Semetic?

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Stuart Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:50 am
@VegasHockey, bwahahahaha!!! Just saw that! I’ve heard of horse breakers, but never breakers of the followers of Abraham! LOL

JZarris Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:18 am
@VegasHockey, Lol! Just woke the baby laughing at that one!!!

RoyaleWitCheese Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:09 am
JEWBREAKERS! hahahaha……I didnt know there were that many jews in the league? LOL

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Royalty_Rules Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
@wirespeed14,

It’s not all Quick’s fault… he’s probably changing diapers at 2 in the morning instead of resting, so blame it on his w.. just kidding… if you take a closer look, Quick does not skate for his forwards and D-men, they individually play their role… I think the team has been off somewhere in La-La Land, doing what? I don’t know, not Hockey, that’s for sure!!!

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Ryan says:

March 29, 2010 at 7:54 am

Whaattt.. Wow!!

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neil says:

March 29, 2010 at 7:56 am

breaking news!!!!!!!!

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Jordan23 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:11 am
@neil,
This is REALLY SIMPLE…Bernier gives us a better chance to win right now then Quick does…out with the old

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kings fan in dallas says:

March 29, 2010 at 7:56 am

interesting….dont know about this one. Unless theres a injury we dont know about. This could be taken as a vote of no confidence by the goalies…This is odd

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NOW IMPRESSED Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:23 am
@kings fan in dallas, There must be an injury that we don’t know about. The Kings problem of late has been scoring goals.

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EASportsMgt Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:48 am
@kings fan in dallas,
I agree, I know they said Quick injured his back during the Olympics, and followed with probably a lot less sleep than normal, (after the baby) it wouldnt be a surprise to find out his recent slump is caused by an injury and they want to rest him a bit before the playoffs. I doubt this will be confirmed until after the playoffs however.

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garry Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:27 am
@EASportsMgt, Have you considered that Bernier may be the best goalie and Quick needs some rest?

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:10 am
@garry, Quick does not “need some rest.”

I'm Just Saying" Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:53 am
@kings fan in dallas, Apparently Murray did not like what he saw in EE in the 100 minutes he played this year…This is the correct move

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Ecktore says:

March 29, 2010 at 7:58 am

I suspect Ersberg will be scratched. Bernier will sit as the back-up for a few games. Just to remind Quick that there is someone anxiously waiting, and fully capapble, of taking his job.

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Bob Bobson Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:10 am
@Ecktore, Given how important DL thinks the playoffs are for MAN, I don’t see him bringing Benier up and sitting just to prove a point. I could see Bernier playing for a game or so to get a point across.

I would not be surprised if Ersberg gets sent down to MAN if Bernier stays up.

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Ersberg Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 am
@Bob Bobson,

I’m pretty sure we’d have to waive Ersberg if we were to make an attempt at sending him to Man, but I could be wrong.

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Bob Bobson Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:40 am
@Ersberg, Yah you are correct. Maybe Ersberg gets scratched for a game ?

Paul from Oxnard Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:06 am
@Bob Bobson, Maybe Quick gets to take a seat and Bernier and Ersberg split these 2 games?

garry Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:29 am
@Ersberg, Who cares about Ersberg! What has done for us this year. The coach has never had the confidence to play him.

Bob Bobson Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:09 am
@Paul from Oxnard, Yah that is possible too. Quick could probably use the rest and the view from above could change his perspective.

backchecker Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:47 am
@Ecktore,
Exactly correct so the next question is Is this the time to be doing that with few games left and playoff hopes fading ?

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Ersberg Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:04 am
@garry,

I agree that Ersberg has been pretty much been dead weight, but I’d like us to at least get a low pick/player/prospect out of him. If we waive him, he’ll get snatched.

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Michael J. Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:14 am
@Ecktore, “Just to remind Quick that there is someone anxiously waiting, and fully capapble, of taking his job”???
Are you kidding??? Call up Bernier to play mind games with the goalie who has set the team record for wins in a season??? What, do you think DL and TM are in the seventh grade???
Either there is an injury, or Bernier is up for the rest of the year.

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WAkingsfan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
@Michael J., and the winner is… Injury!

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Keeper says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:00 am

Iceberg gets looked over again. Crazy.

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kings fan in dallas says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:02 am

hhhhmmmm…perhaps…but i would pump up my goalies in the last week. Goalies are a odd group….depends on how they take this. Yes i know quick has not been great…but i really put the blame more on the guys in front of him.

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oldthunder says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:02 am

This is a shot to both Quick and Ersberg… I have no idea what TM is thinking. Lets just hope we can win a few more games and get into the playoffs…

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Nut Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:14 am
@oldthunder, TM doesn’t call up players.

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Gary Livingston Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 am
@oldthunder,
yeah, this is all DL.

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oldthunder Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:18 am
@Gary Livingston,
You guys are both right, but what point is DL making? I’m stumped. Is he going to start or sit on the bench to light a fire?

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garry Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:32 am
@oldthunder, Bernier may be the one guy to get us into the playoffs. Quick is not at the top of his game and I am sure D.L. has noted this and made his decision.

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:17 am
@garry, Just a bit up toward the top of the page you claimed Quick wasn’t getting enough rest. Which is it?

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neil says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:06 am

so much for the plan for Bernier to lead Man. into the playoffs….

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Gary Livingston Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:18 am
@neil, yeah, this is a bit confusing for sure.

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AK47 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:19 am
@neil,

Manchester doesn’t play until Wednesday, they’ve won 4 in a row and are well on their way to a playoff spot. Bernier will be back for the playoffs but I think this move was strictly for the back-to-back. I think Bern will play tonight vs Minnesota and Quick will play tomorrow vs. Nashville

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garry Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:33 am
@AK47, If Bernier is hot and get’s the wind, he will stay up. Manchester still has a very good goalie.

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Bob Bobson Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:37 am
@AK47, OK this makes more sense now. If MAN is off for a few days, I could see Bernier sitting while Quick gets the start and Ersberg stays as back-up. If all Bernier is going to do is sit, why not let him sit and see what an NHL playoff race is like ?

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AZ King Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:27 am
@AK47,

I’d actually prefer Quick tonight against MIN and Bernier against NSH. I think we need something new to throw and NSH

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AZ King Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:28 am
“throw AT NSH”

Stuart Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:29 am
@AZ King, I agree, we need to give NSH a new look.

sd Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:57 am
@AK47, I hope Bernier starts agsint Nashville since Quick can’t seem to beat them. Though, that puts Benier going back to back if he goes back to Manchester to play on Wednesday.

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Catcherman Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:13 am
@neil, Manchester won’t have any more trouble than normal with Zatkoff in net.

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kings fan in dallas says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:09 am

Think about this….what if they play Bernier…and he has a poor game ???…..what do you do then??? The last few games are make or break….do you go back to quick after doing this???This could blow up in our face….hope it doesnt….and yes…i know they havent said Bernier will start…but if he does and has a bad game….were screwed.

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wavesinair Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:42 am
@kings fan in dallas, how will be be “screwed?” Explain. If he has a poor game, we’ll be in the same position…losing. Not worse. ???

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Player-X Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:48 am
@wavesinair,
Glad to see a post from you, where ya been?

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wavesinair Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:05 am
@Player-X, Busy! Been missing all the fun. Saw some great posts but haven’t had the time to give the proper amount of attention.

McPuck Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 am
@kings fan in dallas,

Then the Kings are screwed.

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kings fan in dallas Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
@McPuck,

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kings fan in dallas Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
@McPuck, As i wrote….it depends on the way the goalies take this….if taken as a no confidence vote…and Bernier plays poorly….i feel this will HURT Quicks confidence…because what do you say to him ?? Ok quick….your are man??? As for EE….yea…do you think he feels that dean or T.M. believe in him now ??

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THEROCKNROLL80S says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:13 am

The Kings need to play in an offensive system not a defensive system. A forwards’ first responsiblity is to play offense first and defense second. A defensemens’ first responsibility is to play defense first and offense second.

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nykingfan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:21 am
@THEROCKNROLL80S,

You’re describing the Crawford days. How did that work out for us?
You win with defense including having your forwards help out the D.

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Moondoggie Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:30 am
@nykingfan, Hey Ny! How ya doin? Thought I’d throw my two cents in here…..

Quickie has been anything but since the Olympics. I think DL is looking at the standings and obviously is concerned that, with the Kings having been practically assured a playoff several weeks ago, all of a sudden they may not make the playoffs at all. Bernier is ready to come in and play. It’s sending a message to the whole team to wake up, Quickie especially. Ersberg looked horrible in the last shootout he played. Most of games now are, let’s face it…one goal games. The Kings can’t afford to lose any of these right now. I’m guessing but Bernier will start tonight and possibly tomorrow too. DL wouldn’t bring Bernier up from Manchester with the Monarchs right in the middle of a race themselves to sit. Bernier is going to see action, you can bet on it. The time truly is now for our young Kings. It’s a wake-up call for the entire team.

Good to see ya again Ny!

GO KINGS!!!

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nykingfan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
@Moondoggie,

What’s up Buddy Long time no see.

Maybe this gives Quick a little wake up as well. He was too good before to be laying this way.

fsd1 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:23 am
@THEROCKNROLL80S, wrong, it was being offensve that led to so many troubles because they played offense first and defense second, it didnt work the 6 years prior. Good defense leads to good offense, no doubt about it!

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Michael J. Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:20 am
@fsd1, Correct!

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wavesinair Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:44 am
@THEROCKNROLL80S, It is a well known fact. Defense wins championships. Leaning defensively is the way to go in the playoffs. But ultimately it’s really how well a team balances the two that creates success.

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NOW IMPRESSED Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:59 am
@wavesinair, “But ultimaltely it’s really how well a team balances the two that creates success” I agree. Edmonton of the 80′s won 4 cups without a defense. If you have a Patrick Roy in his prime in net, you don’t really need a good team defense. But as a rule of thumb, yes, team defense wins cups.

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Chuck says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:15 am

Could he play in one of the back-to-back games? Very interesting move by DL…

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AK47 says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:17 am

yessssssssssssssss!! great move by DL, Bernier is going to play one of the back-to-backs

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BritKing says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:19 am

This will proberly destroy what little confidence Ersberg had left. He has been treated like a leper this season by TM, he’s man management of Ersberg has been awful.

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nykingfan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 am
@BritKing,
At this point, who really cares?
Nothing against Ersberg, but whoever gives us the best chance to win, is the guy I want.
It seems quite obvious that EE won’t be with the Kings next year, so why do I care about his confidence at this point? Management doesn’t seem to have confidence in him.
How or why he was used the way he was is probably something we’ll never know the real answer to, but that NYR game earlier in the season for whatever reason, sealed his fate with the Kings.

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Matt R Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:46 am
@nykingfan,

And I didn’t think he was so bad that he needed to basically never be played again. I didn’t really understand that.

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nykingfan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:03 am
@Matt R,

That particular game he was beyond brutal. We outplayed the Rangers for 60 minutes but because of EE, we got nothing out of it. That game was all on him. that night, EE was comparable to Cloutier.
Whether that should have banished him to the bench, I don’t know, but that’s a decision that TM made with more knowledge than we have.

wavesinair Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:46 am
@BritKing, This is world class competition. Not charity. If management thought for once second EE would give the Kings a better chance to win, he’d be the starting goalie.

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wirespeed14 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:51 am
@wavesinair, Well said.

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badgoltending Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
@BritKing, Ersberg is not on the same level as bernier. He had a chance to steal a game in a shootout and failed. He let in 2 goals on 3 shots during the shoot-out. Bernier gives the kings a better chance to win.

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scv king says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:19 am

Back to back games starting tonight. TM already said he was thinking of Quick only playing one of the two. Why would Ersberg get the start when we have Bernier a phone call away? A great move, in my opinion.
Quick has not been very good since the break (nor has the team). Bernier looked good in his game vs Dallas a few weeeks ago. If giving a start to Bernier gets the team going, I have no problem with it. If it gives a kick in the pants to Quick, so be it.
With Calgary having such a difficult schedule the rest of the way, it is conceivable that the Kings could get into the playoffs by losing the rest of the way. But, who wants that? This move appears to me to be about shaking things up. Time to grow up and start playing again. Too bad for Ersberg. Maybe too bad for Quick. But, this is the big leagues.

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CupRun20xx Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:16 am
@scv king, Completely agree. Bernier looked like he had something to prove against Dallas a few weeks ago…we need to get these guys focused and I think it’s better to throw Bernier in rather the Ice…but Ice did get us a point against the Avs…tough call. Let’s see how this all plays out.

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garry Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:35 am
@scv king, YOU ARE RIGHT ON!!!

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:24 am
@scv king, Quick has been average since the break, not poor, not great. Of course, that’s better than the rest of the team has been–especially the players putting the puck in their own net (What is that all about? I’ve never seen that happen so much.)

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Stuart Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:27 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, two words – HOCKEY GODS!

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KingFanMGM Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:50 am
@What’s the frequency, Kenneth?, Part of the reason Kings player keep knocking pucks into their own net is a little bit of just plain bad luck, and a lot of bad positioning by Quick to begin with.

Rebound control was poor when Jones couldn’t keep the puck out. It was poor again when Johnson knocked the puck in. Quick should have been the person to block the cross ice pass that Doughty knocked in. The Modin goal… well that was just unfortunate. That was too far above the crease for Quick to be able to do anything on.

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USHA#17 says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:20 am

Someone sick or injured? Or another rash move? Chemistry or lack of?

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Marc Nathan says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:22 am

as usual, the fans reading way more into it than there is… Bernier will be Manchester’s starting goalie in the race to the Calder Cup.

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Action Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:05 am
@Marc Nathan,

Yessir.

And Quick will be the Los Angeles starter in the playoffs barring an injury. And as someone said above, forget about EE. He’s our last resort at this point.

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nykingfan says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:25 am

Very interesting move. My first thought was tyhere an injury? I guess we’ll all know later.
If it isn’t an injury, this move makes complete sense if Bernier will be starting one of the games and come playoff time, Bernier will be one of the 2 goalies and Ersberg will be sitting in the press box.
If what most of the people here thought that Quick was tired, whether mentally or physically, I would have a lot more confidence in a goalie who has been playing regularly, than Ersberg who’s been dormant most of the yaer.

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AK47 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:27 am
@nykingfan,

Nah bro, only way I can see Bernier backing up Quick in the playoffs is if Manchester doesn’t make the playoffs and the way they’ve been playing, there’s no way they miss. Hickey should be back soon, Lewis & Loktionov have been a huge spark for the Monarchs

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nykingfan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:31 am
@AK47,
you could be right.
I thought injury was the most logical reason, but we’ll find out later.

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LAPD line Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:51 am
@AK47,
Looking at it from the Kings mgmt and ownership side of things (and mine, as well) whose playoff run is more important, thi King’s or Manchester’s? The same goes for Ersberg’s hurt feelings. He was given his chance at the job and it didn’t work out. We’ve got to field the best team we can.

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KingFanMGM Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:55 am
@LAPD line, I agree. The Kings’ playoff run is far more valuable to the franchise than a Monarch’s run. It’s much more lucrative as well. Plus, Zatkoff is more than capable of playing and gaining experience in Manchester.

Bernier IS the future of the Kings. Quick may or may not be there. It’s up to him to start taking ownership and proving he is worthy of being the #1 of the future, right now. Personally I think Quick will play backup to Bernier, maybe as early as next year.

Right now, this is all about “being prepared” and “giving the team the best chance to win”.

topshelfshot23 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:00 am
@nykingfan,

Another thought is maybe starting Bernier will spark the team to play better on the fact that a rookie goalie will be playing. I have had many experiences with having to step up “your game” to account for a lesser teammate. I’m not saying Bernier < Quick, but the thought mentality of the team might be to play a more solid D game to protect the rookie goalie's confidence. Just my take on the situation.

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KingFan4ever says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:26 am

Uh oh…..

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S D King says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:28 am

A definite wake up call from DL to quick and the team.

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lilwaynesimmonds says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:29 am

holy crap

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roadtripper says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:31 am

I have nothing against EE, but I like the move… of course only time will tell and hopefully Rich can get back to DL for a little more info. But it seems quite obvious that Quick is struggling, and if he keeps struggling they don’t feel EE can take us far on his own, and the hottest goalie in the system right now is Bernier… we need points and we need to show up come playoff time – period! It also says to the team “We’re not getting it done and I’m not afraid to make changes!”

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Cup B4 I Die says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:35 am

Panic Button pushed by TM/DL? hmmm. Just keep shooting the puck and working hard…it’ll all work out.

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ice is nice says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:41 am

Rich, you pulling an early April fool’s on us?

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garry Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:36 am
@ice is nice, Lombardie would be the fool if he did’nt.

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Player-X says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:43 am

Something is going on in that locker room. I don’t know what it is, I am not “reporting” adnything, I am giving my outsider assessemnt, but I am convinced of it.

Two games ago, when Fro was still in the doghouse, I saw him make a great forecheck, but eventually the puck was lost. Next I see Fro on the bench and Kompon is talking into his ear. Frolov turns to him, and makes an expression (This is Fro the inscrutable making an expression) and then he gestures forcefully. The gist is that Fro was basically saying, “I did that, I did what you told me to do” or words to that effect. This was very different than the usual nod and agree that players usually respond with. Later that game, Fro tipped the goal in front of the net. The team was ecstatic for him. For HIM. They were happy about the goal, but more so they were happy for Frolov. For the time afterward, at every chance on the bench, players were patting him on the helmet, skating past the bench on their way into the game just so they could say a good thing to him, etc. It was obvious to me, and I even said it out loud at the time: these guys love Frolov. They love him, they know he cares, they know he gets a bad rap.

Then, you get the dustup with Murray and Brown and “the pecking order” comment. Seriously, it may not sound like much, but in hockey people are so reserved this is like a tidal wave of emotion being revealed for that to come out publicly. Put it this way, if it happened in Montreal, the front page would be a picture of Murray split-screen with Brown and big-ass letters “Coach says Brown “…needs to learn the pecking order.’”

Now, you get Bernier called up, against everything that has been said so far about Bernier and “The Plan.” It cannot be rightly said that Ersberg hasn’t simply been totally screwed all year. I mean, you can say okay it’s hockey and Quick was winning, until the first Bernier call-up. That was an absolute slap in the face, message being to Ersberg he is dead weight. And now this, contradicting everything that was described and expected, and while many people view Bernier as the Messiah, I still see him as youing and unproven needing guidance and experience before being thrown into a major battle. But forget what this means to Bernier, my point is that this can’t possibly be a positive message to Quick, and is the death knell to Ersberg.

I ain’t no coach, I ain’t no GM, and I am only an outsider looking in through foggy windows, but I am seeing constant line changes regardless of result, good players benched and demoted while repeat offenders make the same mistakes often and at crucial times in games, I am seeing offensive stagnation and defensive lapses system-wide, and I am seeing confidence and creativity being ruined and stifled.

Add to that, seeing the zero reaction when Brown gets sticked in the face, and then punched twice, followed by another scrum where a King was under a Star defender at the netside and all the other Kings just skated away, along with other examples of guys getting face-washed, etc., and not responding. Kings almost NEVER initiated the after-whistle pushing, until finally in the third period of the last game they did it maybe twice, but even then all our guys were looking down and trying to just tie up and avoid any actual back-and-forth.

The team’s behavior is showing to me a reaction to something fractious when the opposite should be happening. At the end of a season, how can we still be saying this team needs to come together as a unit and find intensity and work together?

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Matt R Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:52 am
@Player-X,

Or maybe they’re just tired.

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Player-X Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:54 am
@Matt R,
Yeah, that would explain everything. Silly me.

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Matt R Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:24 am
@Player-X,

Ok, if you want to go that route…while there is probably some amount of locker room tension, that’s going to happen with every team, especailly at this time of the year. Forgive me for thinking that there may be an explanation beyond the team is about to implode in on itself. As you said, you’re giving your assessment from the outside. You’re taking things you’re seeing and hearing which could be, and probably are, completely out of context and making assumptions based on information that you have no way of confirming. I hope you enjoy your conpsiracy, I’m just going to enjoy some hockey.

rick Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 am
@Player-X, I tend to agree with you. I have wondered for a few games now whether something is going on in the locker room, or between management and players. This latest move – puzzling to me – only convinces me more. I hope I am wrong.

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Stuart Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 am
@Player-X, team toughness has been an issue since we had players like Zhitnik and Smolek…mid 90s. The team is a soft young team. I’m hoping that playoff experience will truly show the guys like Kopi what being and playing tough really means. There is no chippiness/nastiness in any of the Kings bones. They are going to get pushed around and beaten down in the first round unless they can come together and stick up for each and not just skate away. Screw it, take the faceoff out of the zone, we have more than adequate faceoff men who can win a draw! What’s more important is showing the togetherness!

The Kings look to be scrambling at the absolutely worst time. sigh

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wavesinair Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:10 am
@Player-X, I didn’t even see the last game but I did see the highlight of Brown’s triple face smash…stick, punch, punch…and was appalled that there was no response by anyone else on the team or by Brown himself. I seriously don’t understand that at all.

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number 6 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:19 am
@wavesinair,
….and could that also figure into why Brown was so peeved at the end of the game???

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PRMan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
@wavesinair,

Didn’t O’Donnell take a penalty on that?

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nykingfan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:12 am
@Player-X,

Interesting analysis. I don’t agree with the Fro portion of it though. I’m not good on lip reading or anything, but Fro earned playing time that night. The goal was huge for the team.
If fro is not there next year, he’ll be forgotten as quickly as anyone else who’s gone.

I do agree with you that I wasn’t happy that there was no retaliation when Brown got sticked and punched. It’s the reason why I always think it’s important to have a guy like Ivanans dressed. You can glue his ass to the bench, but when something like that happens, that’s what he’s needed for. By drssing Ivan, it’s not like we’re sitting out a big goal scorer. Both Halpern and Clune add little or nothing offensively to the team.

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garry Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:45 am
@Player-X, You can only beat on a guy so long and management has made it clear Fro will not be back next year. At the end of the season and nearing crunch time, the coaching staff needs to back off a bit. We should never have brought in Halpern amd Modin. I still have not got over seeing Brown beaten up and nobody sticks up for him. Common — get us some beefsteak out there to protect our guy’s. Bring up Westgarth!!!!!!!

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:34 am
@garry, management has not “made it clear” Fro will not be back next year. They haven’t even hinted at it.

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leo4kings Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:18 am
@Player-X, Waww plyaer X. You are one hell of a writer. Now, a fictional writer or Historian, remains to be seen. But, your exchange about FRO and the fact how frolov has been picked on by TM vs as you put it, multiple offenders, shows a lack
of consistency on TM part. What do we always ask the ref’s? Be fair and consistent. If you call something on one end, do the same on the other as well. So, I do think you might be on to something about players backing FRO for the fact he has been unjustly being picked on. Good job buddy.

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Marbles says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:44 am

Great move!! Gives us a better chance of winning in these back-to-back games and I have nothing against Ersberg either. I hope Quick and the Kings get the message. I am really not surprised that this happened.

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McDonalds says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:48 am

WOW! I’m really surprised by this. Not sure what the angle is here…

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JB says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:48 am

Ehh kind of saw this coming for about the last week. Quick hasn’t been super sharp but not terrible either.

Rich- Random question. How does it work when a player has a newborn kid? Do teams do something extra like make sure they get some hired help or what? Just saying from experience those first couple months w/ a kid your lucky if you get 4-5 hours of straigh sleep. Even if the wife is the one getting up you end up waking up too and doing stuff.

Anyway I say get Bernier going who was awesome last call up and has been good all season.

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:36 am
@JB, I remember hearing something about how arrangements had been made for Quick to get good sleep. I don’t know exactly how, but it satisfied me at the time.

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blckbsct says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:49 am

Hmmmm….maybe Quick is a little fatigued mentally! I’m all for whatever helps the team though!

Go KINGS!!!

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anonandonanon says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:52 am

There were reports of a back problem with Quick at the Olympics. One has to wonder if this hasn’t affected young Jon. I sure don’t want to have Ersberg starting 3 or 4 of the final games so his feelings aren’t hurt. This is why you have depth. Bernier got a ton of experience and Eric got a bunch of money and some splinters.

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PRMan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
@anonandonanon,

Exactly. For everyone feeling bad for Ersberg, he is making more money in 2 years for sitting on a bench than most of us will make in our entire lifetimes.

I hardly feel bad for him if he is their 3rd choice.

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5buckcolonnadeticket says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:55 am

Now to make room, they should assign Terry Murray to Ontario

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AK47 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:03 am
@5buckcolonnadeticket,

THIS

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fancy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:56 am
@5buckcolonnadeticket, That is the best suggestion I have seen on this blog.lol

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McPuck says:

March 29, 2010 at 8:55 am

Quick is wearing out He needs a break. Start Bernier.

The Kings need a kick in the pants this will do it.

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maraudking says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:03 am

Bernier will probably be back in Manchester by weeks end. DL is not going to have him miss playing in the AHL playoffs. This is a way to hold Quick’s feet to the fire, and maybe jump start him a bit. He’ll play one of the next two games, but don’t count on JB to be in Kings gear for Saturdays game against the hated ones.

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Capt Jam Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:43 am
@maraudking,

I disagree. This is not a time for a quick fix (no pun intended). If Bernier gets a shot and the team responds with a solid effort that leads to a win, he will be moving into Doughty’s Frat House or Casa OD for an extended stay.

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launch says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:06 am

everybody calm down….

DL knows what he’s doing. Somebody posted this already, but is was apt…..IN DL WE TRUST

Rich- quick with the update or we all might implode

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mike says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:11 am

Quick is tired

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:38 am
@mike, It’s been repeatedly pointed out that Quick is not “tired.” This is something else.

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Capt Jam says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:12 am

Considering TM’s line combos lately, for all we know Bernier may be brought in as an energy guy for the 4th line. No, really.

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mike Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:15 am
@Capt Jam,

HA! not at all, they moved him up to first line now hes on with Doughty and Kopitar.

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Duffy says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:15 am

Are they going to put Bernier in as a forward, maybe he can just stand there in front of Minnesota’s goalie and screen him from shots. The Kings need to create some offense. just sayin’

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number 6 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:06 am
@Duffy,

Haha, that’s a gewwwd one.

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bbb7 says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:15 am

Bernier doesnt miss anything at Manchester by playing tonight and then returning to his team for the game Wednesday; in fact, he gets a taste of playoff run pressure in The Show and then goes back and deals with business in Manchester as before, so a double dose.

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Simmer says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:15 am

Pretty obvious, I think.

1) Bernier gets another NHL game under his belt, and then goes back to Manchester for the playoffs. He’s a freebie to call up and down.

2) Ersberg – despite a couple solid outings – has no future here. He’s purely a backup goalie. If Quick gets hurt or blown out, Ersberg comes in. Otherwise, Quick gets as much PT as he can handle.

As many of you have pointed out, there’s really no concern for Ersberg’s development or feelings. He’s like a box of practice pucks – or frankly, like any other player on the team. He serves a purpose, and that purpose is backup (emergency) goaltender. If he doesn’t like it – and I’m sure he doesn’t – he can try to find another home next year.

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Lars H Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:59 am
@Simmer, Re your last graf:

1) Put yourself in Ersberg’s skates for a second or imagine your employer showing you the same amount of respect your comments show for Ersberg. Those things may be true; telling Ersberg he can like it or lump it shows lack of class.

2) But, OK. Nevermind hurt feelings. Hockey players get paid good money to play a game. Treating Ersberg a box of pucks rather than as person is poor management, especially in the era of easy free agency. If teams hope to attract and retain quality free agents, they need to develop reputations as quality, people-focused organizations. Ersberg may not have a role in the future of the organization, but the manner in which he is transitioned to the next stage of his career will impact the future of the organization.

Fortunately Lombardi has so far shown he’s not much of a “like it or lump it” type of guy (Conroy, LaBarbera come to mind), and that’s a positive for the organization.

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scv king Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:12 am
@Simmer,
Ersberg’s job all along is what you have stated. He has filled a spot until others were ready, pure and simple. We can all sympathize for his feelings, but it is the reality.

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Gregg says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:29 am

What I don’t get is that everyone keeps talking about the shot mentality but then all they do is pass the puck until it can be picked off by the other team? Regarding Fro, he needs to be allowed to play his game – hold on to the puck down low and let someone else charge the net. His 30+ goals last year were not just an aberration. Regarding EE, 2 of the game he lost, he let in 2 goals and we only scored 1. Can’t put that all on him.

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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:30 am

–What?–

That was my reaction to this news.
Surprise, shock…

–Why?–

The first time Bernier came up the situation was comprehensible; this time is not. Before, the start was like the game Brayden Schenn played earlier this year. Now, with Manchester’s status in flux as to the playoffs, and the Kings oh-so-close to clinching a playoff spot, SOMETHING must have happened, a real something, such as an injury or a chronic nagging physical problem.

I spent much of Sunday worried about Simmonds’ physical condition, ya think…

This is NOT GOOD.

Let us in on the news, TM/DL!

If not, then Player-X seems more correct with every passing day!

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:42 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, I’m as confused as you are. I think we need to wait for the story we’ve been promised. I get the feeling it’s not the complete disorientation that’s being projected. I just hope it’s not something (like a back injury) that they might feel they can’t fully disclose.

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Khanon says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:30 am

Maybe bernier can teach quick how to handle the puck? This is an interesting call-up… I like both quick and bernier, and I also have a soft spot for ersberg…

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DieHardKingsFan20 says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:42 am

I BELIEVE IN DL, DON’T YOU??? Look at the tremendous progress we’ve made. Instead of everyone bitching about how bad we suck, we are going to the playoffs AND there isn’t a team we can’t beat!! So everybody calm down and let DL do his thing, it’s working out so far so stop the whining!! And whoever is in goal tonight, just WIN BABY!! Err sorry about that, just had a Raiders glory days flashback!

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:43 am
@DieHardKingsFan20, Wow…that’s a way-back flashback…

Groan…my two struggling teams…I’m hoping this one’s working its way out of the box.

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KingsKru in Corona Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:51 am
@DieHardKingsFan20,

AGREE AGREE AGREE!!! Trust in the management who has built this thing from scratch. If you dont like what’s on the ice, try remembering what you were saying about this team a month ago. This kind of thing happens in hockey all the time. Phoenix could very well be peaking too soon!

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Simarosa says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:43 am

Good luck to Bernier, what ever his role will be. Please don’t stay away from Manchester for a long period of time though.

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Cynic says:

March 29, 2010 at 9:47 am

I’m not so sure Bernier is a ‘Freebie’ to call up and down. IIRC, it was mentioned by ‘That Lawyer and cap guru guy’ for DL that after the deadline, teams were only allowed 4 callups from that moment to the playoffs. I believe there is an emergency clause as well, but when we called up Bernier the 1st time, Solomon (Ah, remembered Lawyer guys name) said we have to be careful as we have 3 call-ups left and if we have another call up before the playoffs, it could be tough on us if we have injuries during a playoff run.

Ersberg did great coming in for Quick, less the shootout. TM said Ranford was riding EE HARD during practices. Why would he do that if they didn’t care about him or need him? Some real contradictory stuff going on right now with the goalies. I’m not sure what to think, but I do think EE is kind of getting the shaft here. I can’t understand why DL wouldn’t let Johnny B get some rest if he’s won his last 4 in Manch and doesn’t play until Wednesday. Let EE start tonight if DL truly cares about giving Manch and Bernier the best chance to win the Calder. Bernier needs rest too, no?

Obviously things will clear up when we get the official explanation, if we get one. This is just a strange move to me.

If this was a true callout to the team, we would have brought back Oscar Moller for a game and sent him back before Wednesday.

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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:03 am
@Cynic,

Good discussion.
Even MORE reason to think something bad has happened…

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Simmer Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:15 am
A few points to note:

1) With so few games remaining, I’m sure there’s no longer concern about wasting our callups. I was referring to him as a “freebie” because there’s no danger of losing him to waivers when he gets sent down. Also, I’m fairly certain that playoff rosters aren’t bound by the same call-up rules of the regular season.

2) There’s a HUGE advantage to riding Ersberg hard in practice. Again – it’s nothing personal. No one ever said that Murray or Lombardi don’t care about him. The point is, he’s the backup goalie. We may need him. So it makes sense to keep him in game shape, if at all possible. Given adequate time, I think it’s obvious that they’d rather have Bernier in there. But if Quick gets hurt, Ersberg needs to be ready.

Again, I don’t think this means anything is up, or fishy or scary or whatever. You guys are like the media – finding high drama in every story, whether it’s there or not.

Of course, when I’m dead wrong, you can call me on it.

Go Kings!

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Cynic Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:29 am
@Simmer,

Regarding your post:

1) I figured that was what you meant by freebie, but others may not. I would double-check that certainty about playoff call-ups. Jeff Solomon (That lawyer guy) said very specifically we would be allowed 4 callups throught the playoffs and that emergency callups do not count. Bernier the first time was for Quick’s baby as stated by Sparman below. Doesn’t count. Bringing Clune up DID count. Down to 3. Bringing Bernier up this time counts. Down to 2. A LOT of hockey gets played in the playoffs. If we put together a run, we may need those 2. I’m just going by what Jeff Solomon said at the GM breakfast here.

2) I get that. Of course you’re going to ride EE if you’re paying him to be a backup. Point is, let him back up. Bernier should completely focus in Manch at winning the Calder. I don;t know what we’re gaining by bringing him up unless Quick or EE is injured. That could very well be the case, therefore question answered. We won’t know until we get that official word.

I think there is a difference between discussion and high drama. Most of us here are ‘Discussing’ the potential reasons for this move, since we don’t have the answers. Honestly, it’s fun for me to do that, just to see if my hunches based on the situation are right when we get the truth. That’s part of the fun of being a fan. Drama is letting your emotions take over your rational thought, which I have been guilty of before, but I still try to temper it with facts. I see that with a lot of posters here. It’s a good thing to have emotion about your team. It’s learning to corral it before you post that can be difficult.

If I’m going to call you out on anything here, it’s for being rational, except maybe for the blanket drama/media statement.

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:48 am
@Cynic, Just a note–we don’t know yet that this move isn’t an emergency. Small point, I know.

Simmer Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Oh, I’m as guilty as anyone. In the third period of the Stars game, I was a regular Drama Queen. My last post that night was full of angst and despair and “woe is us.”

I’d be eager to find out how call-ups are handled during the playoffs. If the same numbers carry over, then that makes this a risky move (barring an injury motive). It’s just been so many years since we had to worry about it. Fun problem to have, though, right?
foxy24 says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:06 am

Yes, let have Quick a little rest… we have 3 good goalies, give a chance to Bernier and Ersberg as well, Quick should take a rest before the PO

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Sparman says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:08 am

I was under the impression that a team was only allowed 4 call-ups after the deadline, unless the call-up was due to an emergency (like when Quick’s baby girl was born.)

I also thought that we burned one of the 4 when Clune was called up.

As far as I know, there is no “emergency” currently.

So, with that in mind, are we burning another call up allowance with this ploy for tonight?

If so, could it possibly mean that Bernier is going to have a longer stint than only tonight?

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Kris says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:08 am

Wow, I stay away for one day to nurse the worst hangover I’ve had in years and look what happens!

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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:11 am
@Kris,

Hmmmm.
What was her name?

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Kris Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:17 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy, LOL

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Cynic Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:35 am
@Kris,

He asked you a QUESTION Kris… LOL is NOT an answer..

BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:57 am
@Cynic,

She was related to, ‘Bud Light Approved, Bud Light Forgotten’…
number 6 says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:10 am

@Gregg,
You sure it appeared on nhl.com? I don’t find it there at all, so guess I’ll just read it here

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YogaPhart says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:16 am

@Gregg,

Or a link to the article would suffice:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/370206-la-kings-talk-is-cheaptime-to-put-your-money-where-your-mouths-are?utm_source=nhl.com

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Gregg Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:19 am
@YogaPhart, Wasn’t sure if we could post links or not. Looking at Rich’s rules again, that only applies to sites streaming games illegally. I’ll be sure to just post the link next time!

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Gary Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:33 am
@Gregg, heh, yeah. It’s actually illegal to copy and paste the entire article or well, any part of an article (of course exemptions are made given the context in which it is done and if citation is provided). But, links to the article are always cool.

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PRMan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
@Gregg,

You can post a fair use portion of an article, to make a point.

But yes, posting the entire article would be copyright infringement. And doing it without a link is not really cool at all.

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VanKingsFan says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:17 am

Just bend over a little further Ersberg… “Ya, work hard in practice and you will get a chance…” I wonder if Ersberg reads those kinds of quotes and just shakes his head.

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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:26 am

One thing about this, is this year’s NCAA Northeast Regional Final.

Watched yesterday as Yale’s starting goalie, a guy who hadn’t played since November until he started in the round of 16 and beat North Dakota 3-2, gave up an incredibly bad shorthanded goal on a mid-ice clear by Boston College which bounced twice and beat him from at least 200 feet. Yale had been keeping up until that goal, which made the score 2-1 B.C. From that point it was all B.C., who went up 9-4… and then their goalie went under siege. Final score was 9-7 B.C., which advanced to the Frozen Four.

Moral of story? Yale pulled the young goalie at 5-2, then pulled the backup at 7-3 to put in goalie #3… who gave up the final two clinching goals on back-to-back shots when he first went in. Goalie confidence is a fragile thing. Whatever happens with the goalies this week, the explanation has to be plausible, because if the decision is to go with JQ in the playoffs after all this, what will his confidence be like?

Think of that B.C. goalie, winner after giving up SEVEN goals in a single elimination game… Is he fragile, now?

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VanKingsFan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:31 am
@BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy,
Love to see a shout out for College hockey!

I dont suppose you caught the CIS finals last night? Solid game, upset win by St Mary’s

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BakoCAkingsCondorsGuy Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:33 am
@VanKingsFan,

Nope, sorry…
My wife hates me for the hockey I DID see, yesterday!

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Cheers says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:33 am

In 92-93, Rick Knickle (career minor leaguer) joined the Kings late into the season to compete with Kelly Hrudey and Robb Stauber. There’s a short LA Times online article titled “Creative Tension: Knickle’s Play in Goal Sparks Kings’ Surge, Creates Uncertainty Among the Incumbents” dated March 23, 1993.

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Kevin from Toronto says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:34 am

Don’t know about this one…
Are they gonna play a rookie goalie in the playoffs? Clearly not, so why bring him up now and confuse Quick… who obviously needs a clear head

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VanKingsFan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:39 am
@Kevin from Toronto,
They might…

Varlamov, Cam Ward, Steve Mason, Jimmy Howard… these guys have/will prove that it is done these days with a lot more regularity

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Kevin from Toronto Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
@VanKingsFan,
Varlamov got lit up in the playoffs (I think Pittsburgh scored 6 or 7 goals on him in game 7)

Ward, Mason, and Howard all started their season at the begining of the season, not 3 weeks before the playoffs.

I love Bernier and know he is the goalie of the future… just this late in the season is not the time for him to start playing

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Sydor25 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:54 am
@Kevin from Toronto,

Patrick Roy….

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Stuart Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:55 am
@Sydor25, and Dryden

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I'm Just Saying" Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 10:57 am
@Kevin from Toronto, Wow wait till Bernier sees how well we are playing in front of goalies these days…

A) Scoring on ourselves

B) Penalty after Penalty

C) Netting about 1.1 Goals per game

He’s gonna flip..

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neil says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:58 am

what line is bernier going to be on?

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number 6 Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:29 am
@neil,
He’s gonna play on ‘the Goal line’.

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? says:

March 29, 2010 at 10:59 am

@Gregg, a link would suffice, though I’m pretty sure the copyright police aren’t going to raise any hell–the list is long.

In either case, I read the first bit before I realized how damned long it was, and WRT “the break” being the issue, it could be. I call BS on the idea that there was an issue before the break. The overtime loss and the 3-0 shutout (win, against the Avs) don’t come to mind as issues.

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? says:

March 29, 2010 at 11:02 am

I think people need to chill until they here what DL/TM have to say.

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 11:31 am
“here” should be “hear”

BTW, Ersberg’s got a back problem, so it’s an emergency callup. PLEASE go read the latest before commenting further.

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fred says:

March 29, 2010 at 11:02 am

kevin you are absolutely right ,4 goals in their own goals in the last 4 games ,wow !!!!!!i m from quebec,and i have quick in my pool ,really need him to play …..and win lol,i love the kings but since the lines changes it s not great at all ,brown was great with smyth and kopi ,hmm so why change that ,and stop taking penalthys like that ,of course ref are horrible in all the league

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ducksuck says:

March 29, 2010 at 11:11 am

not sure about this move don’t think goal tending has been the team’s problem think finishing plays is what is killing us and we need to make it more simple the Kings are looking for the perfect goal always, i love it when they do, but we need points not highlights and not sure how JB will help maybe to calm things down?? don’t think JB is a NHL playoff goalie so i will wait before i see what the team will do with him but after EE played i was impressed with his play and quick has had his own team score on him 3 times so we will see but very weird call up JB is not the answer hope im wrong.

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Barry's Mullet says:

March 29, 2010 at 11:13 am

This was always in the cards. Bernier and Quick are the future…sucks for EE but the kid can play, just too much talent and no room for him.

This is not about loyalty and one player its about the TEAM and who is going to give you the best chance to win and put a streak together going into the playoffs.

Anyone who has watched hockey over the last 30 years like I have know you ride the hot goalie. Quick has not looked like the Quick before the break and the baby. He still may be the #1 but right now its JB’s job to loose…ride that horse until it drops while JQ works on his game and trys to get his mojo back.

I suspect we will see JB tonight and with a win we see him tomorrow and if he wins that game, things really get interesting.

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What's the frequency, Kenneth? says:

March 29, 2010 at 11:30 am

Please all stop speculating here and read the latest.

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Jordan23 says:

March 29, 2010 at 11:41 am

This is REALLY SIMPLE…BERNIER gives us a better chance to win right now…out with the old

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Larry says:

March 29, 2010 at 12:47 pm

Berns is great insurance! Rock solid! Good time to see him!

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Carol Vadnais says:

March 29, 2010 at 1:09 pm

I like the flexibility here. Not only will Bernier get one or two more starts under his belt, but say the Kings lose the first two games of their playoff series, Bernier will be there, ready, and able to take over and inject some verve, excitement, spark, whatever, to the team…we all like Ersberg but he is clearly our fourth best goaltender (quick, bernier, zats) in the system and should not be backing up anybody as the season winds down…

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VanKingsFan Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
@Carol Vadnais,

I only think this would happen if Manchester were out of the playoffs too. They wouldn’t call him up and leave Manch. hanging just because they don’t like the first two games by Quick.

PLus the amount of times TM has said its Quicks job, I think they would at least give him one home game in the playoffs even if he loses the first two. MAYBE, if we go down 3 game to 0; but I still only think it happens if Manch. gets knocked out

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Carol Vadnais Reply:
March 29th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
@VanKingsFan, don’t get this logic because Zats is a fine replacement for Bernier and if Quick clearly does not have it in the playoff series — his first playoff series — than calling up Bernier makes more sense

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R.E.M. Murray says:

March 29, 2010 at 5:41 pm

I cant get that stupid Dumont goal out of my head.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlg=20092010,2,946

at 04:32 of the 1st

Quick should have been out for good after that crap.

That is why we haven’t beat the Preds.

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