Scott Parse has been assigned to Manchester of the AHL. Otherwise, the Kings are basically skating as they finished last night’s game…
Smyth-Kopitar-Brown
Frolov-Handzus-Stoll
Clune-Richardson-Simmonds
Ivanans/Moller/Purcell/Harrold
I’ll get Murray’s thoughts on these lines today…
I thought Clune skated well too, but wow
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Wow 30 minutes to find out who the “big acquisition” will be.
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I wonder how long until Clune can’t be consistent.
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This line swapping is frustrating. Why can’t we stick with what worked for 9 games?
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apparently…
whitney will not be moved until after the olympics…so if the kings have offered (?) to make it a two-year extension for him, (which i think is wrong to do), all the “legit” reports indicate that it will take place just before or on the march 3 deadline…
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I liked what I saw from Clune. Seems like a DL type of player. Parse had a good start to this season. But absolutely deserves to be sent down. Im still not sure about the breaking up of Kopi and Simmonds on thae top line though
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Not a fan of Stoll on that line btw. Much rather see someone like Moller to back off the defense with speed and give Fro and Zeus some room to work.
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You could see from last night that Parse was in the doghouse with Murray from the first shift. Clune took his spot during the second shift of his line with Simmer and Richie. Pretty quick hook for Scotty. He’ll be back.
He BETTER be back. Parsey has some really decent skills and has done WAY more than Purcell has for us this year.
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Any comments on the frenetic D-pair swapping throughout the game. And did something happen to Greene? He didn’t play towards the end of the game and not at all during the overtime? Let the D’s play d
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Whacky lines. Why Stoll and Handzus together? Why Kopitar andd Brown together. Smyth-Anze-Simmonds, Stoll-Brown-Richardson, Clune-Handzus-Frolov. Done.
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MR King…
because that would make too much sense. Murray isn’t about making sense, he’s about making statements….No he needs to bench Frolov and put Ivanans in the shootout.
Im surprised no one discussed the horrible shootout players Murray chose last night…Richardson? Simmonds should have been top 5 for sure. Handzus should have been top 5. He has 60% success rate going in. Both those guys scored. Stoll? come on…STOLL? Just by looking at Stoll I know something is not right with him, there is some sort of issue here, he’s growing a playoff beard waaaaay to early..
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Can’t Stoll center Richie and Clune so Simmer can move back up with Zeus and Fro?
And Parse was totally inconsistent so sending him down may just be making room for Teddy to play a bit.
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I don’t understand why Stoll is playing RW and Richie isn’t playing winger.
Ideal lines, to me, seem to be
Richardson-Kopitar-Simmonds
Smyth-Stoll-Brown
Frolov-Handzus-Clune (Grind, shutdown line)
Ivanans-Moller-Purcell
You have 3 lines that can score (although probably a little less with the 3rd line). Kopitar, Simmer, and Richie seemed to click while they played up top, and I don’t think Simmer and Richie lost any of their “jump” or grit…
When is someone going to create a PHP line generator for the Kings?
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Purcell has completely lost his confidence and Moulson’s success is keeping him on the team. Not sure the term “change of scenery” fits anyone better.
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Someone has naked pictures of TM, I just know it. You can see it on his face during every game.
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DAN H…
i agree…re: stoll…
maybe he will get re-adjusted to playing on the wing again, but last night, stolly seemed to miss an assignment or two…
maybe t.m. is already starting to assert a regular two-center line, as we inch closer to the playoffs and each game takes on that aura of importance…
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I dont know if we need to talk about Moulson anymore… he has hit a wall BIG TIME and cant score worth beans anymore. At this point I think Parse was playing better than him.
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I’m going to go out on a limb and say the Kings sent down Parse before the roster freeze so that he can get playing time in Manchester during the break. Just a thought. I could be wrong.
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Variable-
Interesting theory and Stoll’s strength is the faceoff circle so who knows. I want them to change the PP so he’s not the sole shooter when he’s out there too. Way to predictable.
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Hopefully someone other than the first line can contribute tomorrow night
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Hmm, the Richard Simmonds line lives…
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these lines are the worst yet. I hope I get the Parse tennis ball on Saturday.
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PakiFro, that’s likely to be exactly right. I’m assuming that just about everybody else is either playing in the Olympics or would have to pass through waivers to get there. I bet he plays every other night down there as to not wear him out.
Moller might be the exception, but what’s the point of sending him down? He likely needs the rest.
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Greener wasn’t out there in OT and towards the end of the game, most likely, because he never plays when goals are needed. There was a PP in the OT, and when was the last time he played on the PP?
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MN14…
lol…good one…!
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PAKIFRO…
i think that’s a great call…re: parse and the reasoning for this move…
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P.S. Terry Murray, how about Parse’s 2 assists, and +3 in less than 12 minutes of ice time just six nights ago against Detroit? Not good enough?
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Kings play on Saturday, so I don’t buy it that Parse was sent down to get playing time during the break. If that’s the reasoning, why not let him play here on Saturday and THEN send him down?
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So we have a 9 game tear, then we change the line up and promoptly lose two in a row…
Parse was a force on a line with Simmonds and Zeus, and Kopitar has no chemistry with Brown. We’ve been through this before!
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I thought the best line last night was Richy/Simmer/Clune line. They were skating hard and played with energy.
I don’t see any reason to break those 3 up.
The Kopi line had some really good chances. Brownuie didn’t bury the opportunitites, but they had chances.
I think these lines are pretty good. I hope he sticks with them for the game against Colorado.
Parse just didn’t bring the same game that he brought when he was first brought up. He was throwing the body and creating scoring chances because he was playing hard and phydical. Somewhere along the way, he lost those attributes and became another AHL-type player trying to hang on. Too bad because I really liked what I saw in the beginning.
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@PakiFro: I think you’re spot on… We should all chill out a little…If Easy E had a 2way contract we would’ve probably put him in Manchester to get a few games in and it would’ve made all the sense in the world
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Rich. Didn’t join you in the suites last night. Would like to meet you but you are in the forbidden area at practice. Do you ever come over to the bleacher side?
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I either really suck at spelling or need to slow my fingers down to catch up to my brain.
Brutal!
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It could also be that Cheechoo was placed on waivers today and sending Parse down is opening up rosters space. DL could get his guy from SJ days back for half price. I’m not saying I want him, but it could happen.
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I don’t think it’s a trade, just a young kid TM thinks needs more games.
I’m sick of complaining about TM and his whacky lines so I gave up on that. I’ll just wait till the end of the season and see what happens. We’ll make the playoffs most likely and that’s all you can ask from TM realistically. If we miss the playoffs, off with his head.
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maybe it’s also pre-emptive if the whitney situation breaks between now and the freeze, as well…
also, the way i look at both players…clune and parse…is that they are both energy guys, implemented for forechecking and cycling down low…
so basically, we replaced one spark plug with another..
and collectively, all of us on this thread, have covered all the possible bases as to what’s up with this…any and all of them seem logical enough…
ohhh, that wacky murph…!
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OK I have to point out one reason we lost last night. How does Kopi miss that YAWNING CAGE from a foot out? Holy smokes man!
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Marc Nathan
I agree, he did have a good game in detroit. But can you name one good thing Parse has done since then? He has been sloppy, lazy, and entirely a non-factor since
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Five minutes. I say we can still pull off a Kovi trade.
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Skebo, I believe once the roster freeze takes place Parse wouldnt be permitted to be sent down.. not sure on this. Anyone?
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Jonathan Cheechoo placed on waivers. I know he probably won’t be there (the price of being good), but would you??
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I’m with PakiFro on Parse. He’ll be back after the olympics.
Skebo, there will be a freeze on movements in about two minutes.
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Whole lot of nothing. Enjoy the next two weeks.
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I’m not sure anyone should have expected much to be done on this Trade Freeze Teaser Day. Why pay a player’s salary for 2 extra weeks of sitting if you can just wait till March?
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Enough of the juggling…we were playing well, then TM started fumbling with the lines. Enough!
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It’s not a roster freeze. It’s a trade freeze.
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skebo, no it is a roster freeze.
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Frozen time is here. And we hear………?
Anything happen?
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From nhl.com:
As the NHL heads into the 2010 Winter Olympics, a roster freeze goes into effect at 3 p.m. ET Friday, and lasts until 11:59 p.m. on Feb. 28. During that time, rosters are locked, and while trades can be discussed, nothing can be consummated until the freeze ends.
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yeah…matt cullen and domminic moore moving doesn’t make today a “frenzy”…
it just goes to show you…:
- the economics
- league parity
- ufa situations
are all reasons to believe that this year’s march 3 deadline won’t be nearly as active as it has been in the past…
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So Parse gets down in advance of the roster freeze… when he could have been sent down a couple of days before to make room for Clune, instead of waiving (and losing Segal).
Sounds like the Kings wanted him in the lineup for one more game and risked losing Segal to make sure of it. Sounds like a vote of confidence in Parse, to me.
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Skebo, between TSN and you, I’ll believe TSN. It’s a roster freeze.
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Re: line changes. Guys, honestly, I don’t understand it. I haven’t seen the last two games, but from reading TM’s comments about chemistry, I understand even less. At 2 0r 3 points during this season some lines have clearly clicked. OK, you go away from those and that’s fine, but then to create new lines that have never been tried I don’t get. It just seems to be jumping around an awful lot trying to get lightning in a bottle.
It would seem to me that the slow starts and certain periods of poor play (even in games they won) would be more of a concern to me.
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@variable: Yeah, too many teams still within striking distance of the playoffs for them to tear themselves apart and look forward to next year. And the teams that can clearly give up on the playoffs at this point, they don’t have much that other teams would want.
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OT: I’m going to go bonkers without Kings games for almost three weeks. Is there a good olympic hockey broadcast schedule available?
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Now the deals are taking place..
Cam Barker to Minnesota for Kim Johnsson and Nick Leddy (2009 first round pick)
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(The sports “dark spot” always hits for me during the winter olympics, and July and August.)
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I know this isn’t hockey related but I thought I should post it through.
Georgian lugger Nodar Kumaritashvili just died after a horrifying crash in training.
A sad way to start the Olympics.
RIP Nodar Kumaritashvili
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Jody Shelley to NYR for a pick…
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Yep number 6. Agreed. Strange to see Stoll on the wing. But maybe variable is onto something with regard to the playoffs, but I don’t get it.
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Cam Barker to Minn.
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Barker was someone that DL should have been looking at!
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@Mark1: Well, if I’m Chicago, I’m not sure I want to trade Barker to a team that I could very well face in the playoffs. So if DL did inquire, I wouldn’t be surprised if young Bowman told him, “For you, my friend, I give you a special price,” but in a negative way.
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Barker is very good. Tallon compared him to a young Denis Potvin….
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great move by minny…great bargain…!
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DougS
Yeah, I bet they wanted something we could not give. And I am sure they would not ask for JJ, not a good fit for that team.
If there is one thing for sure that I gather from reading the blogs/posts here, is that everyone would gladly welcome the addition of another playoff experienced d-man.
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RE: Line changes.
We all know TM changes up lines if they stop working well for a while, and if a hybrid line works during a game, he’ll explore it further.
Look at What Richardson/Kopitar/Simmonds did for a brief spell. It worked great, and TM gave it an extended look, then when it wasn’t as effective, he changed things up.
Trying new lines obviously has worked well for him in some cases, so he will keep trying.
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Mark1…are you going to trade Schenn and a top 4 d-man to Chicago for Barker?
That’s the equivalent…please people…use your brains.
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mrbrett7
No, I would not! I reference my post above.
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Yeah, well TSN was also calling it a trade deadline, which it isn’t. TSN’s Bob McKenzie just confirmed what I was going to say:
# TSNBobMcKenzie
But teams can still call up and demote players to the minors etc until early next week, at which time it’s a total freeze I believe. 2 minutes ago from web
# Bob McKenzie TSNBobMcKenzie
No trades can be made now until after midnight when the Olys are over, the night of Sunday Feb. 28/morning of Monday March 1
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Now that I think about it, here’s what interests me about the Barker deal: Is it the beginning of the big Blackhawk salary cap dump?
Who acted like the playoff team in getting a quality player who will strengthen them in the short run? Minnesota, who are currently out of the running.
Who shed a quality player and at best tread water in the short-term? Chicago.
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dtownmbrown
I think you put it best. Good job
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I don’t know what happened to Drewiske, but he needs to take a seat next to Jones. Huge liability out there last night.
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DougS
Chicago must dump salary.
Remember though, Barker got hurt and they found out they could do fine without him. The big reason for that is Jordan Hendry. Now that dude is one we could use here!! But they get Johnsonn in return as well, so…
The ‘Hawks are built to win right now. I follow the ‘Hawks because I live in the same time zone (Kings games are on late here!!) and they look bored. They are waiting for the playoffs. This attitude is foriegn to Kings fans like me but I do believe I recognize it.
If they do not make significant moves before the deadline they at least will lose Sopel, Mad Dog, Bolland and probably Frazier before the start of next year (or so thinks me) because, as one poster said a few weeks ago “the ‘Hawks seem to have forgotten that there is a cap.”
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@Mark1: Interesting. Thanks for the state of the ‘Hawks summary, that’s stuff I didn’t know.
I lived in Chicago for a while, but that was 15-20 years ago, when they were still playing in Chicago Stadium and Tallon was still Pat Foley’s color man.
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DougS
I secretly like the ‘Hawks. But let it be known I like the Kings better!! I never thought there would be a reason to follow the Kings with this management but my attitude is slowly changing.
Bringing Foley back was awsome for them!!
Is it safe to wear visiting teams gear there?
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I don’t get how Purcell is above Parse and Segal. Parse and Segal may be inconsistent, but to me, Purcell is a no show every game
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TP has a 1 way contract doesn’t he?
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It has nothing to do with 1 way or 2 way contracts. A one way contract just means a player gets paid the same if he is in the AHL as if he was in the NHL. 2 way contracts have a AHL salary and an NHL salary. capgeek.com will show you how it breaks down for any given player. Parse can easily be sent down, because he doesn’t have to clear waivers and that is all about his age and the number of years that he has been a pro. TP would have to clear waiver, just like Segal.
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Alen: Yes he does. Expect him to play on Saturday to get him that last bit of exposure before the trade deadline. They’re dangling him for trade bait, but if they can’t trade him he’ll probably sit the rest of the season.
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Guys, keep in mind that the AHL does NOT have a break for the Olympics. Also keep in mind that the Monarchs are struggling a bit. And then factor in that Parse was a significant contributor in his time down there this season.
I don’t know that this is as much a reflection on Parse vs. Clune as it is the desire to beef up the Monarchs since the Kings won’t be playing.
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TM has talked about Parse’s inconsistancy. I don’t see this as a demotion or an attempt to help the Monarchs. i see it as an opportunity for him to get more ice time over the next two weeks. I would call it more of a vote of confidence.
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Like i said before.. What happen to we don’t weant to disrupt the flow of the team.. Come on Dean,stop with the silly games and the silly moves and make 2 smart ones Purcell and Ivanans gone..That way if you want Cheechoo and maybe Whitney,bring back Parse…. Line combos … Smyth-Kopi-Whitney/ Cheechoo-Stoll-Brown/ Fro-Zues-Simmer/Richardson-Moller-Parse…….
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Parse probably asked them to send him down because he is sick of sitting on the bench.
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Purcell staying ???? Parse more ice time more production from him, Purcell doesn’t score at all and he’s still in the line up??? If you let parse play more ice time he will for sure score a goal or make a great play. Purcell should be the one going to manchester and we also need to call Schenn to play because taht guy have tons of talent and play physical.
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Let’s get chee chee choooo train here he can still score .
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Dean Lombardi stop saying i’m the buyer all the time co’z the store might close sooner than later.
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Is Parse being sent down to get more Ice time during the break? He better be back!! His goals, assists, and +/- are all above the average numbers in the league and he gets less ice time and has played fewer games. Whats the deal? does someone know any more info.
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