After practice today, Jack Johnson said he has an arm injury, and Johnson and Terry Murray both said it was not certain whether Johnson would play tomorrow at Boston. It seems likely that a decision will be made after tomorrow’s morning skate. Johnson practiced today, but Murray said Johnson did not attempt to shoot or pass with full strength.
If Johnson is unable to play, either Davis Drewiske or Randy Jones could play. Murray said Drewiske has been cleared to play, but that he wouldn’t play Drewiske in both weekend games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpOyG7vmLzo&feature=player_embedded#
Brayden Schenn vs Carter Bancks
From Brandon Wheat Kings at Lethbridge Hurricanes, Jan 27, 2010
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Speaking of Status, how is JW doing?
Most of us “dumb” poster (point at self) said JW would get injured and it would be a waste to trade for him. Also everyone said he would outscore POS. Kinda sucks that we are playing JW more $$$ then POS and on top of that we gave up a 2nd round pick….Goooooo DEANO!
Hmmm…Guess us moronic posters got it all wrong again
I’m also the same guy that said we should of signed Gaborik.
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By saying arm, are we to presume it’s not the shoulder? Something more akin to a sprained wrist maybe?
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I hope we play whiskey against Boston and JJ returns for the Devils Sunday.
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TSN doesnt totally hate the Kings. Check out the latest Player Rankings for the AHL
http://tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?ID=11702
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Does WWAMD stad for….
What Would A Mindless Donkey “Say”?
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Does WWAMD stand for…
What Would A Mindless Donkey “Say”?
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Sully is a cancer on a horrible Edmonton team in need of offense he’s playing on the fourth line more often than not.
JW had a few freak injuries. Do you remember Blake being hurt for most of two seasons and then never having another serious injury?
And if you’re worried about JW being hurt how do you not worry about Gaborik, a guy you’d have to pay more and longer, getting hurt?
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Gaborik is just as injury-prone as JW, so put away the crystal ball. Unavoidable freak injuries like JW’s happen to anyone.
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I really hope Wiske plays against Boston and Jack can make it back for the Devils’ game. Just say no to Randy Jones.
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KingHal
Not quiet
But let me just tell you, everything I have said…Has come true. Just sayin’
And your joke would have been funny, if my name was WWAMDS
unfortunately thats a big fail on your behalf
Let me help you with one for the future
What Would A Moron Do
…..I don’t know ask Dean!
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WWAMD,
When did you gain the power to predict injuries?
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Even if Williams is out half the season and makes more money, who cares! Kings scored big time on that deal. Its all about attitude, JW is a team player and a Stanley Cup winner. What has POS done?
Back to topic, good to hear Jack’s injury is not very serious. Like most, Im not a huge fan of Randy Jones, hope Drewiske can play in Boston, and then Jack can return to NJ. If we have no choice but to Play Jones, it would be wise to play him with someone like Greene.
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Gabby has upside, Williams is getting paid because of one good season playing on a top line.
Sully has more upside then Williams. Sully is putting up more points then Williams on a 4th line Edmonton team that sucks.
While williams stood there and looked pretty on a top LA Kings line and would naturally get points by getting in the way of Smyth and Kopi doing their thing.
Williams was never tested on anything but a top line. Put williams on a 3rd or 4th line and people will be asking Justin…who?
See this is one of those many trades/pick up. That Dean used his heart and not his brain. He likes to pick people he had ties with, but the fact of the matter is, they suck.
Williams was never good to go. Gaborik FINALLY had hip surgery that Wild never allowed him to have. I figured Gabby’s injury days were over and looks like I’m right again. As for Williams…he’s not a good player and they way he plays he’s prone to get hurt…Just type in Williams in google images and you’ll find tons of monster checks on him..
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POS: Goals 10/Assists 17/ Points 27
Williams: Goals 8/ Assists 16/ Points 24
POS is barely ahead of a guy that has been on IR a significant amount of time.
POS is supposed to be a top 6 LW. Where exactly does he fit on this team right now? He’s not taking the place of Smyth or Frolov and he doesn’t fit on the #1 line.
Point is, you can’t always compare players and their numbers. You have to first see if they even fit in on the team.
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thx Van
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Speaking of JW, has anyone heard a status on how he is recovering? It has been 5 weeks tomorrow since he broke his leg vs Phoenix. I believe the original timetable was 3 months, but haven’t heard a word on how he was doing so far.
GO KINGS!! Great job on the trip so far. Let’s get some more pts this weekend!!
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As long as Williams has been out POS still only has 3 points more than JW. I give the kings the win in that even with the injury
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WWAMD – what about the Kings winning and having far and away their best season in years makes DL a moron? Seems kinda illogical to me.
Back to the subject of the thread…
Fortunate Drewiske happened to be at the end of his injury. Hopefully they can put him in if JJ can’t play. Jones’ first couple of games were good then tailspin. Liability.
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DaBronx
Its not power, I’m a numbers guy and psychoanalytic major. Its called plotting numbers and behaviours and look for reaccuring themes/patterns. Justin Williams is text book example of predictable behaviour.
07-08…Injured Most of the season (played 37 games)
08-09…Injured Most of the season (played 44 games)
09-10…Injured Most of the season (played 33 games)
Naturally it is safe to bet that Justin will not play more then 45 games next season.
I did this when Labarbera played as a King. I use to make a ton of money by predicting he would let in a goal in either the first 10 shots or 2 mins of the game, which ever game first. He did this 10 games in a row that my bookie refused to bet anymore cause he knew it was a guarantee win for me.
I’m just surprised Dean didn’t try to sign Forsberg yet.
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WWAMD: How did you ever crack that complicated pattern of three years in a row being hurt? Must need to be a psychoanalytic major.
If we wanted to win the title for best stats then maybe it was a better idea to have POS this season instead. If we want to be a good team and win games, then it was a good move to throw him to the curb. Ask any Edmonton fan who they would rather have; they would LOVE to trade him away right now, but who would take him?
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People always find something to complain about.
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WWAMD: Yes it was weak I admit.
Last night POS was a healthy scratch on a team that has 1 win in 20 last night.
And that win was against the Leafs
just sayin!
Forget about him. Move on. Find something new to write about. It’s over!
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Why are people so opposed to the idea of someone being injury prone? Yes, freak accidents can happen to anyone…they just seem to happen to JW a lot more often than to other people. And how much is JW helping the team with his great attitude when he’s rehabbing at home? Do the boys go visit him for their daily inspiration?
Regarding JJ, is it a good idea to reveal his injury? Even though it’ll probably be 100% when he comes back, other teams will target his arm now. Can’t have teams targetting uninjured body parts.
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Matt R: What do you propose we do? Avoid all players with more than one injury in their history?? Where do you draw the line? He was %100 healthy and playing great at the start of the year; I would never just assume that someone will get hurt.
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WWAMD…
For a numbers guy you’re not very good
POS 27 pts
JW 24 pts (while playing less game)
And POS didn’t want to play here, he wants to playing a hockey town like Edmonton. They can keep him!
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I liked Sully because he was a LA King. He is an Oiler who was a healthy scratch last night. He was a healthy scratch on a team littered with players that does not display hard work, heart and effort on a nightly basis. In the “real media”, (which basically is any outlet in Canada
) his name is usually prefaced with “the underachieving”. I don’t relish people not being successful at their craft. I am a LA King fan- and I would gladly take what Williams offers in the clubhouse and on the ice- even if we only got for it 40 games out of 82 + playoffs
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Article is titled: O’Sullivan Benched:
http://www.faceoff.com/hockey/teams/edmonton-oilers/story.html?id=d9803c4a-4868-43cd-a6e4-0ad9d4352e03&add_feed_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.canada.com%2Ftopics%2Fsports%2Fhockey%2Ffaceoff%2Fcolumns%2Foilers.atom%3Fviewer%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.faceoff.com%2Fhockey%2Fteams%2Fedmonton-oilers%2Fstory.html
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WWAMD:
6 Los Angeles Kings
PAC 53 31 19 3 65 160 147 14-9-2 17-10-1 6-4-0 Won 4
15 Edmonton Oilers
NW 52 16 30 6 38 136 178 9-16-4 7-14-2 0-8-2 Lost 3
Just gotta love that 65-38=27 point gap between the teams. Then, there’s the winless in 2010 statistic…
Hmmmm.
No matter where Ya go, there Ya are!
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WWAMD…
How about if DL calls up Edmonton, what do you think he should offer for POS? ha ha ha. I don’t think it would take much to make that trade.
And I don’t think Edmonton is fielding too many calls on ‘ol POS, Big contract, little production and worst attitude.
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The main part of that deal for Edmonton has to be the 2nd round pick.
I think Shane-O said it best, I would rather have JWil for 40 games than have POS for 82
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Van, I don’t propose anything. I am simply wondering why people are opposed to the idea of someone being injury prone…like I said. For some reason, if you say “injury prone” on this blog, everyone goes crazy and I think it’s really funny.
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Matt:
Point taken, it is true that some guys are injury prone. But I don’t think that should be what defines a player.
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What ppl seem to forget is POS had a pretty high trade value when he was traded…and DL threw his away for nothing…Which in itself it bad…not horrible but bad…Then he throws in a 2nd round pick to boot.
I would rather have 2, 2nd round picks for sully from Edmonton then Justin Williams.
NOW how valuable would that have been this year and the next?
I do not nessicarly like POS, but I do think that PAYING more for a player who will produce less HURTS the team overall. That means we can’t have that space to sign better players. Thats means someone on the team is getting paid top dollar to sit at home. I just wish Williams was able to play a full season. Unfortunately that is not the case. As for the POS and JW argument of JW playing less games…true, but thats part of the package and POS also plays less mins. and on a weaker line…LOOK at Richardson for example…starts playing on top line with Kopi and he’s putting up points. I think Dean should have not made that trade “personal”. As for POS getting benched. I remember a guy named Frolov being benched….hows he doing?
As for asking Edmonton fans about Sully? Thats like asking Kings fans about JJ…Not to offend you people, but you seem to take things way to personal in player stock and do not actually value the player for what he is. ppl in here don’t appreciate players like JJ and Quick and Brown etc. much like POS is not appreciated by the Oilers. However, they are important players and sometimes like in Sullys cause, he is misused. Ask Kings fans about Moulson a year ago…ask Islander fans about him now. Just I can never take a fans perspective as measuring tool. Again no offense, but most of you seem like bi-polar posters. One game you guys demand Quick to be traded, and another game he’s our #1 for 3 years down the road. One game its Kopitar is missing, the next he is the Kings future #1 Center. How much stock can I put in that? Need to look at the overall picture and if we look at the Sully/JW trade…Wheather you like it or not, it was a BAD trade from the get go. Thats just the fact. We lost a good player and a 2nd round and we got an injury prone player who we are paying more per season. Thats lose lose lose situation. HOWEVER, Dean has done some good since then. I love the Kings and I love the team, I was starting to warm up to Dean a little but the whole JJ situation got me thinking that you can’t teach an old dog new tricks and that Dean will always be….well Dean.
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But in the end WWAMD you did call JW being injured so kudos to you. I’m just wondering…do Smyth and Scuderi agree to come here with POS on the team, or with someone with a ring on the team? hard to say really, but I’m guessing seeing a team with JW on the squad would be more appealing than POS.
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Smyth said he came her cause of Kopitar
Dont know why Scuds came here, but really, we could do without him
I’d rather have Drewiskie play D then Scuds. I’m sorry, Scuds is over rated in my book. He’s OKAY…He was FANTASTIC in the playoffs with the Pens, however, I have not seen those flashes of brilliance during his time with the Kings. I just keep telling myself that maybe Scuds shines in the playoffs and I hope he shines for us this year.
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Van, no, it shouldn’t, but unfortuantely that tends to be what happens sometimes, right or wrong. For some players it’s the story of their careers. Take Eric Lindros for instance. Probably the two things everyone remembers about him is the Legion of Doom and concussions. Sucks, but it’s life.
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Is there a link to that interview where he specifically says that he came because of Kopi? Just wondering if he mentions any others by name as the reason why he came. Just seems wierd that it was only due to Kopi.
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WWAMD:
Please do not lump every single one of us in the bi-polar category.
Scuds doesnt shine ever, thats not what he does. But he is a rock defensively.
There is a reason POS is on the 4th line with poor linemates. He belongs there. This isn’t the only season we have Williams for either.
Instead of asking the Edmonton fans how they feel, how about we ask the coach, GM, etc. etc. Probably get the same type of answers.
Sully was used on the top line ALOT when he was here… did not produce like he should. And if he was still on the team he would be taking ice time from Richie, from Parse, from Simmonds, all thee guys that have been helping us win.
You said yourself, Sully’s trade value last year was large! And what is it now? Zero. We sold right before the stock plummeted. Smart move.
When JWil comes back and helps us win in the playoffs I hope you are still spouting about how you would rather have O Sullivan
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Wow, see now there you go PROVING you’re hockey acumen is none too high. We could do without Scuderi? Oh yeah, totally. We could do without a guy who’s a perfect fit with Doughty and provides untold numbers of non-stat sheet based things to a young team. Totally could do without that good-for-nothing. I mean the Pens are so much better off without him! Oh wait…
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also WWAMD we have one of the largest cap rooms in the league money is not the issue it is how we get the talent and “deanoo” got all of our talent from the draft something you would know if you looked at the age of our team and in the minors and in college. pos is nothing to cry over palffy huge mistake but sully really he sucked and was at the end of his contract so we woudl be paying him more today if he was still on the team and look at how good him team is doing, maybe the oilers just wanted him so the could get high draft picks?? i don’t know i cant see the future like you can but “injury prone” is not a thing real kings fans enjoy considering the lapd line being destroyed and allison never playing like he did and deadmarsh having to retire, everyone knows this is the kings blog site rite?? not the nhl blog i would hope must of our fans stick up for their team not boo them at home when they are having a bad game or calling players injury prone because if my memory is correct gaborik is a lot more money then jw is and you were saying how it’s stupid to get players that are injury prone so what if we sign gaborik and he scored like crazy the 1st half and just like on the jw play a FREAK accident breaks a leg i think that would be more money wasted. once again 4 STRAIGHT WINS and you guys are bitching about how dean traded away sully for someone that HAS helped the team.
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There are about 3.4 million reasons Scuds came here. Who else was going to give him that many reasons? Helps that the team is headed in the right direction though.
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watch scuds dive for a puck and tell me he sucks teh guy is a matt greene – teh big hits scuds will not score a goal this season but he will prevent more and with a guy like that it really helps out the mvp of the kings mr quick
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There was a play last night, where Scuds took a shot off the foot, that hurt him. Play went to the Columbus end but came back into Kings territory a short time later. Who was back to get the puck..Scuds. That’s one of the reasons why we love having him back there….as with Greener, they pay the price and keep playing.
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Scuderi brings so much more than stat sheet stuff to the team. And what other D-man has shown such a good butterfly technique?
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LOVE GREENE AND SCUD’S die hard defensive players like miller and nordstrom nice to see that some fans understand half the game is defense. and we are 53 games in the season sitting in the 6th spot not bad compared to the last 3 years
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Ilya Kovalchuk with your 31 goals and 57 points i want to see you on the kings roster for the playoffs a elite player like him would make the kings so much more dangerous only player besides alex the great, sid the kid, and rich nash would do it if we are serious about going far in the playoffs Kovalchuk is the only one out of those 4 that we could in my dreams get and if we get him those 31 goals will be nice with kopi’s 22
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Two words one Scud, “The Piece”!
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Scuds poked the puck off an attacking Blue Jacket’s stick on a rush into the King’s zone.
Nothing spectacular. Just steady and reliable. If Dewey had done it people would be squealing how wonderful he is.
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Kovi –
Fabulous one-way hockey player. Does he really fit in with the “culture” DL wants to build in L.A.?
Doesn’t anybody get antsy over the thought that ONE GUY would be taking up nearly 20% of our cap space?
When our entry-level contracts start blooming into mega-bucks, where’s that dough gonna come from?
Don’t ever forget how the Oilers got Dustin Penner. You wanna lose Simmer the same way?
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Tuan Jim
“culture” is Dean Lombardi jargon for “I’m not able to sign players in LA cause I give them low offers and expect them to want to play here because I’m Dean Lombardi”
these words Dean throws at the fans/reporters are called excuses. We all know Dean tried to get Luongo, Chara, Gomez, Drury, Hossa, and Gaborik…But just to shut us up he got Nagy, Calder and Priessing and overpaid for Zues. (what kind of “culture” was he trying to build with Nagy, Calder and Priessing?)
Your question about one guy taking up 20% of the cap space
Ask Pitts, Wash, Detroit, and the other great teams how much it bothers them?
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The Kings aren’t moving Simmer for Kovi. That’s a non-starter, Dean has said so much. I also don’t believe the Kings would pay Kovi where his cap hit would be 10+ per year. They’d have to work a deal where his hit was closer to 7-8.
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Witless Windbag And Mindless Discussion
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Might get a few lashes for that one
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WWAMD,
Seriously, dude, how can you be complaining? Lombardi is fielding not just a winning team at the NHL level, but the AHL and other levels too.
This organization has more potential talent than it has ever had, has the right attitude, the right culture and you have nothing positive to say – incredible.
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nah dMan, I thought it was pretty funny! very good use of the W’s
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VanKingsFan points are dead on. WWAMD I do agree that some posters comments are back and forth but I’m not one of them. I think it’s more of a reflection on Sully that we had to throw in an addtional asset (2nd rounder) to make the deal happen. We are tying up a little more money with JW (i think his salary was a few hundred thousand more) than we were with Sully but once again, (my opinion) it’s spent on a more valuable asset overall
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dMan, read all of my posts. I do stat that he’s done well. If we could turn back time and if Dean did not make the Williams trade and the JJ comments, then I’d love Dean as a GM. However, the thing that bothers me MOST about Dean Lombardi is that he is a schemer and takes things WAY to personal, Dean needs to understand he’s a GM and not a “bestfriend”. I don’t want to hear Dean talk all the time. I want to see the talking being done on the ice. As of right now I love what I see on the ice..If Dean was quiet all year long, I would have taken all the things I said about Dean back and congratulate him. However, he managed to mess all that up but publicly and stupidly talk about Jack Johnson. So Dean takes one step forward and 3 steps back. SO my suggestion to Dean is to shut up, let the players on the ice do the talking with their skill set. I don’t know any other GMs around the league that do so many interviews and provide so many excuses to fans like Dean does. I know Dean can build a good team, I don’t know if he can put it over the hill.
Here is the key Dean, I actually hope u read all my posts to this point because u’d realize how right I am.
Here is the key…YOU got this team in a “better” position. Which is ok…if you want to make the playoffs and get heart broken year after year. Now you need to put this team OVER THE TOP…what that means is get that star player. That means Kovi….I understand how tough it is to get him to sign an extension with LA. Its a weird market right now, but you got to do everything in your power to get him. If I see Kovi playing in another NHL team next season, then that is the nail in the coffin and Dean can not pull the trigger. I do have confidence that you will “get it done Deano” so lets see.
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How did this thread about Jack Johnson’s injury get turned into a discussion about a POS named POS?
He’s gone and good riddance.
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Shane-O
at the end of the day, Edmonton got a player that is putting up higher stats and also a player that is tradable. Edmonton can trade Sully for “something” “anything” and Edmonton has a 2nd round pick
Kings have a player they can not trade and one less pick.
You know that Simmonds fellow, what about the Moller dude, even better that goalie we have, Quick, Loktionov and other to name a few…yah those players were a 2nd round pick or above. Thats what we gave up and I don’t like it. Sorry, we got ripped. I don’t get why some of you don’t accept it.
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WWAMD- thanks- you are making work fun
at the end of the day, it’s good that Sully may be tradeable even if they have to throw hime in if/when they have to move horcoff. jw is not the trade market – obviously because of injury- but because he is an asset to the team. And I agree about the value of the 2nd round- it’s a shame we lost it – DL has done wonders with those types of pics.
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“Kings have a player that they cannot trade”
And which GM’s have you been talking to that said they would not want JW? Seriously bro, unless you can back it up with facts, noone is going to take anything you say seriously.
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It baffles me that anyone could defend the POS at this point.
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RJC76,
If you were a GM of any team right now. Be completely realistic with yourself now and do no be a homer. Lets use Islanders for a second. If your the GM of the Islander would you trade a 2nd round pick for Sully or Williams.
Listen I’m not a Sully diehard. But lets call a spade a spade. If your a GM you would not trade for an older guy who is getting paid more and putting up less numbers and plays most of his hockey on a game console cause he’s injured most of the time.
Williams will waste his last year of his contract (next year) trying to get into “game form” again and then what…we lose him. So technically we gave up Sully and a 2nd round so a guy can come here and shape up for a future team to take a chance on him and pay him less then what he is making now. I thought we learned from Roenick
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WWAMD,I was one of those people who was mad at the POS for Williams trade. I gave it a chance and I saw his work ethic out on the ice and I was sold.
Williams got a freak accident. They just happened. Even though he has been gone and will be gone for another 8 weeks, he has better numbers than POS.
Now forget the numbers for a sec, did you even watch Williams when Smyth was injured? He was doing everything that could have been asked of him. The little things, getting his nose dirty, he was displaying leadership out there.
I see what POS is doing in Edmonton and I’m glad he is gone.
WWAMD, really why are you back? To stir the pot? Here we are winning and here you are adding an “h” and dropping an “n” to it. Stop whining and enjoy what we have.
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Seattle, I mentioned that I love the team..just don’t like Dean!
I have my opinion and I dislike Dean Lombardi
He gets an F on Public Relations
and an B+ on Drafting
C in free agent signings
C+ in trades
Thats my grade book for him…He would of received an A in Drafting, but Tyler Myers is really starting to bug me.
As for the current Kings roster, I give them all an overall A. Go Kings!
Speaking of Williams, anyone even notice that he was gone? I didn’t for a while, thats how useful he was.
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WWMD, Dean drafted Doughty, if you would have rather drafted Myers you need your head examined.
I for one have noticed Williams is gone, at the same time I had forgotten you were gone since you add so much useless talk with your negativity.
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WWAMD: Does it tell you something that you are the only one arguing our particular points, agianst everyone else. Dean is doing whats best for the team and the fans, not best for you.
I would bet that even though he is injured. 90% of all GM’s would rather take Williams over POS.
Higher stats do not equal better players, any smart hockey fan knows that, think about it.
“Older Player” – The guy is 27…technically older than Piece of S***, but in his prime still and an LA King past this season.
If Sully is on this team still, Richie most likely never gets the ice time and would be riding the pine or in Manch. Same goes for Parse. I would take those two over Sully any day of the week
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I also notice Williams being gone… every time Teddy Purcell gets a shift its because Williams is out.. all the line shifting is because Williams is out… Since he has been out we field a less talented line up. thats a fact
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Seattle
I would never want Doughty over Myers…I’m talking Myers over Tuebert. But I’m sure u knew that
VanKings…yah I do notice, which either means I’m wrong and the rest of you are right or I’m right and the rest of you are wrong. However, I do make points and people go off and talk about something completely different to counter my points. I’ll talk about Dean making a bad trade and others talk about the team doing well. YES the team is doing well…I’m just saying the Williams trade is bad, it was bad then and its bad now. I know Dean isn’t perfect, I don’t rag on his ability to NOT trade Moulson and let him go for nothing…None of us predicted him being successful elsewhere, but at least try to turn him into a pick or something. Like I said before and I’ll say it again, Dean has “attachment” issues. He loves the good ol boys and after his smack talk about Jack, I feel like he does not appreciate his own home grown. Cammy trade was bad too, but at least he got SOMETHING out of it, which COULD have been tyler myers, but it was tuebert…Oh wells.
Besides that Dean is ok, like I said before and I say it again, I wish Dean had a gag order, because everytime he opens his mouth its either an excuse for what he’s done and hasn’t done, or he bad mouths players. Let the coach do the talk about the players and Dean do your job being GM. That is all
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Sorry I meant Myers over Doughty..lol
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I just read through this whole thread and I think the next time WWAMD posts anything at all, we should just not respond.
He hijacked this thread and turned it into his own little “I hate Dean Lombardi and I am crying over a trade that is so far in the past it means nothing now, and I really am a Kings fan but all I want to do is cry about POS……..on and on and on. It’s like the annoying little kid who keeps smarting off just to get a reaction. We’ve heard his opinion, and nobody agrees with it, so just ignore him.
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WWAMD: We have countered your point, all of us think that the Williams trade was a Good one! Even though he is hurt, i would rather our fill in players were out there than POS. And if/when Williams comes back, he IS a better player in our opinion.
How do you know he didnt try and trade Moulson? Problem is no one wanted him. We signed him when no one else wanted him, he did nothing, still no one else wanted him. Just because you dont see the tangible result of it doesnt mean he isnt trying to do things.
You dont need to bring up the Tyler Myers thing… a lot of other teams are kicking themselves too. it happens every single draft, more than a few times, with all teams.
“I feel like he does not appreciate his own home grown”
- I disagree, based purely on the fact that a lot of our current team is home grown talent! POS was not really home grown, most of his minor league experience and training was by Minny
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PurpleBlackandGold: Very solid plan… is it possible that he is POS himself??
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Whoever he is, I’m about done with him. It really almost ruins the great thing Rich has going here…
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WWAMD = POS
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VAN….
You beat me to it. WWAMD is none other than POS. I don’t know of anyone else who would think POS is all that and a bag of chips.
And as trade value?
Who would want a 2.9 mil cap hit for 27 points?
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WWAMD -
You are SOOOOOO funny! Come on, enough with the arguing just for the sake of arguing to make your day go by faster. Not even you can honeslty say a GM would give up a second rounder (LOL!!) for Sully instead of Williams. Not in a MILLION years. If you were a GM and gave up anything higher than a 7th rounder for a player in the top 3 WORST +/- in the league AND a healthy scratch on THE WORST team in the league you’d be looking for a new job the next day, in another sport. I get that you may have like Sully when he was a King and was mad when he was traded but that just goes to show you why you don’t have a job anywhere near a hockey rink. Lombardi showed us once again his keen sense of evaluating hockey players by seeing that Sully was not going to get any better and moved his ass out of town.
But thanks for all the hilarious posts though! Made me smile quite a bit today
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If you don’t feed them, they usually don’t come back.
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“Ask Pitts, Wash, Detroit, and the other great teams how much it bothers them?”
WWAMD –
I don’t have to ask them. NONE of them pays its star players as much as Kovi wants. Not even the Mighty O get $10 mil and the near-that-sum that he does get is still not crowded by what his line-mates are getting paid. Kopi and Smyth are good for about $13 mil. How much do Backstrom and Knuble make?
Chicago is squirming under the cap, was lucky to sign Hossa for the rest of his life for half Kovi’s ticket, and the last I heard the Hawks are even contemplating unloading Patrick Sharp’s relatively small contract to get some breathing room for bigger deals. Its highest paid player is not within a coupla mil of what Kovi’s asking for — and Kovi wants it for YEARS. He might as well want it forEVER!
Pittsburgh lays out big dough for Sid and Gino, but neither of them is earning 8 digits. Are ANY Red Wings earning more than Lidstrom’s $7.5 mil?
NO ONE, NOT ANYWHERE, is sucking out the syrup the way Kovi wants to suck it out of us. For all his size he’s NOT a two-way player. He brings a resume of 40+ goals/year for the last half-dozen seasons. So howcum Atlanta has only made the playoffs once? And the once it got there, Kovi didn’t even score the way Kris Kontos did some years back. The Rangers made Kovi look like a hole in the ice.
But gee, maybe you’re right. Maybe DL is just an Alibi Ike with a flapping mouth, trying to cover his ass in front of the news guys with excuses about all the mistakes he made with guys like Cloutier, Nagy, and the like.
Then again, maybe it’s YOU who don’t have a clue. Maybe you’d be glad to unload all those excess and useless draft picks that DL was smart enough to squirrel away and spend when he could get something for them.
If he occasionally picked a loser like Brian Boyle, or bought a dud free agent, at least he learned from the experience. NO GM ever bats a thousand. They ALL make mistakes.
Right now DL’s batting average looks pretty good to me. And I can even admit that the Williams-O’Sullivan trade — which EVERYBODY, including myself, criticized — wasn’t so bad after all.
So lemme make it as clear as cellophane. The so-called “elite” teams are hollering blue murder over their giant star contracts. We have too many assets that I’d rather hold onto, too many entry-level guys who are doing more for the Kings than I think Kovi would.
If the guy has any interest in playing in L.A., I say ask him on July 1.
Meanwhile, we’re doing fine without him.
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WWAMD = Helene Elliott?
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I believe that the ONLY reason we got rid of the 2nd rounder in the POS trade was due to a media leak that sabotaged the original three way deal without a pick being involved.
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