Before I head out to the morning skate, and hopefully learn the new line combinations… If you missed yesterday’s news, you can catch up here with my LAKings.com notebook. Thanks for reading…
Tonight’s opponent, Calgary, is familiar and is only going to get more familiar. The Kings and Flames have already met once this season, a 5-2 Calgary win on Nov. 21. After tonight, they play again on Dec. 17 in Calgary and then again on Dec. 30 in Calgary. In one of those scheduling quirks, the Kings and Flames will be done with each other after that. The Kings will look for a better effort against Calgary than their last one, a game in which Jarome Iginla scored 13 seconds into the game and went on to record a hat trick.
Here’s what Terry Murray said about facing the Flames again…
MURRAY: “They’re a good hockey club. Their back end is as good as anybody in the league. Their goaltending is first-rate and they have Iginla, who is a world-class guy who scored three on us here at home. They play hard. They’re playing a very intense game, like they did last year against us.
“They played hard in every one of those four games, so we need to bring that game that I’ve been talking about, which is our best, in order to give ourselves a chance to win at the end of the day. They’re a very strong counter-attack team, with their defensemen joining, and we’ve got to have a checking mentality again.”
Not to mention Olli coming back to his roots!
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Good point about Olli Jokinen coming back to his roots.. That was another draft pick we traded away too early. And for the Kings fan who don’t know this, we picked Olli 3rd Overall in 1997. You know who went 4th? Roberto Luongo. Bad, bad miss.
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I have a weird feeling, that if we make it to the playoffs, we will play the Flames in round 1……..
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Scot, are you nuts? We traded Olli in a package for a guy named Ziggy Palffy. He and a couple guys named Allison and Deadmarsh formed one of the best lines seen in the last 10 years (imo).
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is ersberg getting another start anytime soon?
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Anyone hear Heidi Androl got a DUI this morning?
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Big game tonight, Moller in, Scuderi probably back, Flames are hot lately going 6-3-1 and are playing the last game of a six game roadie coming in 4 and 1 in those five road games previous having last defeated San Jose 2-1. I think we will know within the first five minutes how this game is going to go tonight…
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Scot,
The Kings’ trade with the Islanders for Palffy (which included Smolinski) was considered so lopsided that the league interfered and insisted that the Kings throw in Jokinen. We were forced to give him away to get the trade approved by Bettman. Otherwise it would have been for two (maybe three) prospects and a first round draft pick.
Besides, Olli stunk it up in his short time there too and didn’t put it together until Keenan whipped him into shape in Florida.
So no, we didn’t simply give up on him. Oh, and Palffy was awesome for us.
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IMO, we need to slow the game down and control the pcuk for the first period, play a grinding game on these guys to neutralize them and try to win the game in the second period…
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A team that plays well one game and bad another
is a BAD TEAM!
changes HAVE to be made!!!
STARTING WITH THE COACH…..
Ed. from MONTREAL Thank you
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Maybe Heidi can get an interview with Jokinen tonight…oh wait…she’s in the slammer. Well, maybe she’ll have sobered up by then!
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She’s in the slammer? Did I miss something?
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The trade was Jokinen, Josh Green, Mathieu Biron and the Kings 1999 1st round pick (8th overall: Taylor Pyatt) for Palffy, Smolinski and a prospect and a pick that disappeared into a black hole.
Palffy scored 340 points and 19 PLAYOFF points for the Kings.
Smolinski scored 191 points and 8 PLAYOFF points for the Kings, before being traded for Gleason, who (with Belanger) was traded for Jack Johnson.
Jokinen scored 21 points for the Islanders before being traded to Florida (with Roberto Luongo, oops) for Mark Parish and Oleg Kvasha.
Jokinen scored 419 points (no playoff appearances) in seven seasons in Florida.
Mark Parrish scored 214 points for the Islanders. Kvasha, 156 points. (Those two players = Jokinen and Luongo, so we’ll say half of those points are from Jokinen’s trade value; I think Luongo has shown to be the more valuable asset there, but still: half).
Josh Green scored 26 points for the Islanders. Taylor Pyatt scored 18 points for the Islanders, before being traded with Tim Connolly for Michael Peca. Peca scored 142 points for the Islanders (so we can count half of that for the Islanders, since Connolly+Pyatt=Peca).
The Kings’ yield: 531 points and 27 playoff points, plus a piece of Jack Johnson.
The Islanders’ yield: 321 points.
Kings win.
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BOB & M were completely on point w/the whole oli situation…some dap, boys…:)
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and then QUISPY blew it out of the kool-aid…
were you bored, bothered or both…?
overkill on a very well-known past win for us…
enjoyed it, however…:0)
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LOL nice breakdown Quisp.. what are your thoughts on tonight’s lineup? Where will Moller play?
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For those that missed it Hedi was pulled over and arrest on suspision of DUI early this morning…
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heidi: http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/07/apprentice-reject-busted-for-dui/#comments
and the other guy the Kings got with Palffy and Smokey was Marcel Cousineau…played for Lowell and Manchester as 3rd goalie. Kings def won the trade….
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Link re: Heidi?
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Never mind, I see it. Derrr.
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Good analysis Quisp, pretty much slams the door on that one…I did see the article on Heidi, she was driving 35 MPH on an LA freeway, lucky she is alive.
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whats your source about heidi? are u sure?
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O snap, guess she is getting fired again. with all that money you would think calling a cab wouldnt be that hard eh? Fail
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Going 35 MPH?? lol
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nevermind i saw it. Damn, shes a little floosy
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M:
Is that true that the league interfered with that trade? Where are you’re sources on that?
I always thought that the trade was really lopsided, I just thought the Isles were desperate and in love with the “Joker” and Green
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The cab thing never ceases to amaze me… they just can’t be bothered I guess.
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@ eyesk8r
this removes any reason to watch Patrick now.
The awkward goofy chemistry between Patrick and Heidi has been unseen on or off the ice in Kings-land since an ill fated attempt at pairing Mario The Goose Gosselin with Steve Duchense as hotel roommates on a roadtrip through Winnipeg led to the serious injury of an area hot dog vendor.
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This Heidi Androl thing is a serious blow to the organization. I think they should sit Patrick, and pair Bailey and David Courtenay with one of the ice girls and play them on the 2nd period intermission line.
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wow…all those beer jokes patrick and foxy used to make…guess they were true. wonder if they’ll keep her around
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Wow re: Heidi. I guess that sort of thing is OK in Michigan. I know the boys at Fox always used to tease her incessantly about her ability to pound the sauce, but I thought it was just teasing. I don’t think there will be anymore jokes on air about it after this.
Everyone makes mistakes. She can’t be too pleased with herself so I hope she can take this in stride and bounce back. She does a fantastic job with KingsVision and just reporting in general and I certainly hope her job is not in jeapordy. She’s got a lot of friends in that Organ-Eye-Zation that I’m sure will help her out.
Waves is right. Memorize Yellow Cab’s phone Number. 877-733-3305. http://www.layellowcab.com/
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Man, You guys are heartless, We all have been there mabey had a lil to much to drink and drove. Just never got caught. Leave Heidi alone….and stick to talking about how the we cant seem to buy a goal without Smyth in the line up.
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Actually Player X-
You got me thinking. Rich only does AWAY Games. I get the feeling that may change for a bit if Heidi is on IR.
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That must’ve been one hell of a party last night @ Nokia honoring Luc. So my question is, should she be fired if she got liquored up at a Kings sponsored event (the only person I know who got a DUI going 30MPH was Snoop Dogg, alcohol???)? Just a thought. I hope they give her another chance, she seems like a real nice person.
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Chris Bond, can’t buy a goal? We’ve scored like 6 & 4 goals the last two games. I do agree, we need Smyth back badly, but anyone of us would’ve taken a .500 record with him gone.
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Agree Buckster, 500 is good but I should have been more clear, The big boys cant seem to buy a goal. We are getting goals from others we dont expect. That is very nice, now if we could get them all going at the same time we wouldnt ever lose.
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As for Moller vs. Harrold, meh. One’s undersized with a scoring touch but likely won’t get the opportunities due to his linemates, and the other is essentially a solid placeholder. TM will make adjustments pretty fast regarding the forwards, so I’m not too worried.
Sitting Whisky against the Flamers instead of Odie doesn’t sit that well with me. I don’t find anything wrong with O’Donnell’s play, but he is unquestionably the weakest link in that D-corps due to his age, and could definitely use the extra therapy day here and there.
Speaking of whisky… isn’t Heidi from a small town or something? I can just picture her, hands 10 and 2, driving 35 miles an hour on the freeway thinking “this is probably the safest way to get home”. Not in LA it’s not!
It’s a tough situation, no doubt. Especially if she was coming from that ceremony I doubt that she would want to announce to the world that she didn’t watch her liquor and now needs to call a cab, in front of all her employers etc.
Of course, that doesn’t excuse the drunk driving, but that being said… I find Heidi very attractive and therefore am willing to overlook some pretty serious transgressions and possible character flaws in order to keep watching her on FSN.
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Yes, Bettman stepped in otherwise we’d have kept Olli.
For the record I’ve NEVER had a drink so I’ve never been there and ‘got away with it.’ Not acceptable.
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I love Heidi and it seems like she genuinely likes her job. I really hope they don’t fire her for this.
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Van:
I remember it clearly getting discussed back then. And discussed at lengths on LGK when Jokinen finally put it together and people were upset he wasn’t still with the team.
But here is the only source I can find that mentioned it. See paragraph 5.
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/21/sports/stanley-cup-finals-palffy-goes-to-kings-isles-get-prospects.html
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boy, we really need canadians fans telling us to fire our coach, what a moron. listening ed?
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So a person should get another chance just because the seem “like a real nice person?”
Of course she should keep her f’n job! Why would someone loose their job over a DUI? She made a really dumb mistake. I’m sure this is going to be a pretty miserable experience for her and hopefully she will get something out of it / learn from it.
And so what if she likes to pound “the sauce?!” Like you all don’t like to pound ‘em and and watch the games! John OC – Does that make you a “floosy” too? I’m sure that was just the beer talking. Grow up!
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been there done that got the life changing experiance, i just hope she re-thinks life like i did. Call a cab, or something… maybe her and JJ where fighting lol
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I think I”m more disturbed that she was on The Apprentice. Don’t the usually have young hotshots on there that are making their way up the corporate ladder? No offense, but asking questions like a High School girl at a hockey rink seems a little bit off for that shows list of applicants.
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I’m calling for a one-time summit with Heidi, Ron Artest and Theo Fleury.
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People shouldn’t be so easy on those getting DUIs. My friend and his girlfriend were killed because a drunk driver didn’t have the responsibility to call a cab or a friend.
Someone like Heidi has absolutely NO excuse. Even if she has no friends in this city she still has plenty of money to call a cab.
I’m sure all of you thinking about going easy on her would feel differently if she happened to crash into someone you love.
All of us with friends and family on the road at the same time as her just got lucky she didn’t make any worst mistake than she did. Just because she got lucky doesn’t give her a pass on the consequences.
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I know a person who lost her job over a frikkin RUMOR! Bring back COLE!!!
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On LA freeways your lucky if you can go 30 mph. Thats no big deal.
If she needs a ride I would be happy to oblige in the future.
Call me!
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