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		<title>By: Big Sleazy Fan</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2009/10/29/tonights-game-story-oct-28/#comment-8197</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Sleazy Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYKF- I would have not picked &#039;zus and that was a BRILLIANT MOVE! BUT we-the kings/tm/staff had a chance to put it away in round two. Wasted it with JMFJ (who has not recently lived up to the middle initials) whom would have been a pick but not for that slot. We had our chances in the SO and I think tm/staff used the wrong personnell and deserved to be criticized. Believe it or not, he is not a sacred cow that can only be critiqued by a mere self appointed few on this site.

	On a different thread I stated I would have picked Parse (the first to post stating so) and Smyth and left simmonds on the bench. Although he (WS) actually won one last year but as a result of a flub that barely crossed the line-there is a good reason why he has only been picked three times. Frolov would have been on my list as the Russia v Russia angle(please don&#039;t blast me if they come from semi-newly independent satellite countries) as he is HOT and you never know when he is due for one and Smyth could be due as well so I am disappointed we let one (victory)/two points get away.

	The team played great and TM has done a great job getting this team to perform no doubt about it. He is not above reproach.

	I get (hardly) that since I/or anyone that criticizes tm or dl or mostly disagrees with you and/or your motely crue that I/we are haters per your earlier post: &quot;the guy you and every other TM hater would have never used.&quot; (So you would have used him?)  You don&#039;t know how I feel or think so get that chip off your shoulder. Oooh I forgot you played hockey so ...

	I like tm and respect for the most part what he has brought to the organization. I will admit that I am concerned about the Frolov issue and how they/will handle it keeps me on the fence about him and dl until it is resolved. Concerned about letting our best player go for peanuts or packaging him for another &quot;has been&quot; gamble. I hope the three can live in harmony this season and many future successful playoff bound seasons. We will have to wait and see.

	I am fatigued being patient on the promising seasons and hopefully many on this site are too.

	I want blood when its there for the taking.

	 It&#039;s great to debate and disagree but not everyone has the same opinion on all issues- there is no reason for the so called regulars that disagree with a non card carrying flock member to fleece him using degrading comments because he/she thinks that Fro is a stud, or can state legitimate reasons in their minds why tm and dl and foxy can be boneheads at times. Hell, we are all human last time I looked.

	I generally enjoy a lot of posts from others I don&#039;t agree with at all times like quisp&#039;s take on Matt Moulson or does he still want Fro on the third line? Probably and I will never agree with him on that one.  Della&#039;s comical links! LOL

	 BTW-Della that was great insight on the game last nite you lucky dawg!

	Do your homework before you label me or anyone a hater because they have a different take than you.

	Sorry, I keep forgetting, you played hockey ...so...

	Please accept my humblest apology if I offended anyone this am, now or in the past/future. I am a passionate KINGS fan and former season ticket owner living in the Big Sleazy.

	GEAUX KINGS!!!! GEAUX FRO!!! GEAUX QUICK!!!! GEAUX SMYTH!!! GEAUX YOUNG GUNS!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYKF- I would have not picked &#8216;zus and that was a BRILLIANT MOVE! BUT we-the kings/tm/staff had a chance to put it away in round two. Wasted it with JMFJ (who has not recently lived up to the middle initials) whom would have been a pick but not for that slot. We had our chances in the SO and I think tm/staff used the wrong personnell and deserved to be criticized. Believe it or not, he is not a sacred cow that can only be critiqued by a mere self appointed few on this site.</p>
<p>	On a different thread I stated I would have picked Parse (the first to post stating so) and Smyth and left simmonds on the bench. Although he (WS) actually won one last year but as a result of a flub that barely crossed the line-there is a good reason why he has only been picked three times. Frolov would have been on my list as the Russia v Russia angle(please don&#8217;t blast me if they come from semi-newly independent satellite countries) as he is HOT and you never know when he is due for one and Smyth could be due as well so I am disappointed we let one (victory)/two points get away.</p>
<p>	The team played great and TM has done a great job getting this team to perform no doubt about it. He is not above reproach.</p>
<p>	I get (hardly) that since I/or anyone that criticizes tm or dl or mostly disagrees with you and/or your motely crue that I/we are haters per your earlier post: &#8220;the guy you and every other TM hater would have never used.&#8221; (So you would have used him?)  You don&#8217;t know how I feel or think so get that chip off your shoulder. Oooh I forgot you played hockey so &#8230;</p>
<p>	I like tm and respect for the most part what he has brought to the organization. I will admit that I am concerned about the Frolov issue and how they/will handle it keeps me on the fence about him and dl until it is resolved. Concerned about letting our best player go for peanuts or packaging him for another &#8220;has been&#8221; gamble. I hope the three can live in harmony this season and many future successful playoff bound seasons. We will have to wait and see.</p>
<p>	I am fatigued being patient on the promising seasons and hopefully many on this site are too.</p>
<p>	I want blood when its there for the taking.</p>
<p>	 It&#8217;s great to debate and disagree but not everyone has the same opinion on all issues- there is no reason for the so called regulars that disagree with a non card carrying flock member to fleece him using degrading comments because he/she thinks that Fro is a stud, or can state legitimate reasons in their minds why tm and dl and foxy can be boneheads at times. Hell, we are all human last time I looked.</p>
<p>	I generally enjoy a lot of posts from others I don&#8217;t agree with at all times like quisp&#8217;s take on Matt Moulson or does he still want Fro on the third line? Probably and I will never agree with him on that one.  Della&#8217;s comical links! LOL</p>
<p>	 BTW-Della that was great insight on the game last nite you lucky dawg!</p>
<p>	Do your homework before you label me or anyone a hater because they have a different take than you.</p>
<p>	Sorry, I keep forgetting, you played hockey &#8230;so&#8230;</p>
<p>	Please accept my humblest apology if I offended anyone this am, now or in the past/future. I am a passionate KINGS fan and former season ticket owner living in the Big Sleazy.</p>
<p>	GEAUX KINGS!!!! GEAUX FRO!!! GEAUX QUICK!!!! GEAUX SMYTH!!! GEAUX YOUNG GUNS!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Quisp</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2009/10/29/tonights-game-story-oct-28/#comment-8196</link>
		<dc:creator>Quisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cristobal, a few things:

	1) shorter me: I&#039;m not suggesting anyone should be banned; I&#039;m just saying people should be civil, or it&#039;s no fun.
	2) &lt;i&gt;Iliad&lt;/i&gt; has only one l.
	3) The problem with your Cassandra reference is that she was right. It&#039;s obviously self-serving and insulting to the rest of us to cast yourself as the prophet whom no-one heeded and everyone else as the idiot masses. Also, if I&#039;m not mistaken, Cassandra had supernatural or else divine powers of perception. So, you know, ibid.
	4) http://tiny.cc/wD7mF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cristobal, a few things:</p>
<p>	1) shorter me: I&#8217;m not suggesting anyone should be banned; I&#8217;m just saying people should be civil, or it&#8217;s no fun.<br />
	2) <i>Iliad</i> has only one l.<br />
	3) The problem with your Cassandra reference is that she was right. It&#8217;s obviously self-serving and insulting to the rest of us to cast yourself as the prophet whom no-one heeded and everyone else as the idiot masses. Also, if I&#8217;m not mistaken, Cassandra had supernatural or else divine powers of perception. So, you know, ibid.<br />
	4) <a href="http://tiny.cc/wD7mF" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/wD7mF</a></p>
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		<title>By: dMan</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2009/10/29/tonights-game-story-oct-28/#comment-8195</link>
		<dc:creator>dMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s simple.  Anthony drops a pile of pooh then steps back, sits down, pops a cold one anticipating the fireworks and chuckles at the ensuing madness, relishing in his genius for engineering chaos.

	Wonder what would happen if people sidestepped the pooh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s simple.  Anthony drops a pile of pooh then steps back, sits down, pops a cold one anticipating the fireworks and chuckles at the ensuing madness, relishing in his genius for engineering chaos.</p>
<p>	Wonder what would happen if people sidestepped the pooh?</p>
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		<title>By: nykingfan</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2009/10/29/tonights-game-story-oct-28/#comment-8194</link>
		<dc:creator>nykingfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One BIG difference with Anthony
	Anthony usually is one of the first posters and puts up some loony post that I&#039;m still convinced is BS. If I&#039;m right about that, it gets the blood boiling of Kings fans so it serves its purpose of starting a lively debate.
	I&#039;m a huge fan of Anthony on this blog (crazy as that may sound)because he gets people going and is smart enough to stay outside the fray. I enjoy disagreeing with him and letting him know that.
	I think he enjoys the abuse and probably sits at his computer all day laughing hysterically over the responses to his post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One BIG difference with Anthony<br />
	Anthony usually is one of the first posters and puts up some loony post that I&#8217;m still convinced is BS. If I&#8217;m right about that, it gets the blood boiling of Kings fans so it serves its purpose of starting a lively debate.<br />
	I&#8217;m a huge fan of Anthony on this blog (crazy as that may sound)because he gets people going and is smart enough to stay outside the fray. I enjoy disagreeing with him and letting him know that.<br />
	I think he enjoys the abuse and probably sits at his computer all day laughing hysterically over the responses to his post.</p>
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		<title>By: cristobal</title>
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		<dc:creator>cristobal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynic,

	You&#039;re obviously intelligent, so I assume that when you say &quot;lighten up frances&quot; or &quot;pick up ya game, son&quot; you know what it is you are doing (i.e. using loaded words and phrases).  I do, and have done it.  But, the fact that I would, and have, been deleted for saying less has not sunk in with you.  So, again, I say don&#039;t presume to know what it&#039;s like to be on one side of the grass when you&#039;re not.

	I mentioned nothing about self-martyrdom, if there is such a thing.
	I&#039;ll just ask again, if you&#039;ve ever witnessed the foul language and vitriol directed against Anthony, and if you can recognize that it is against the rules.  Some are deleted for trifles, while others curse, and go on and on about others&#039; comments.  There is no &quot;fairness&quot; in it, but that&#039;s the way it is.  All I&#039;m asking you to do is to recognize this (by stepping back and thinking about it a bit) and REFRAIN FROM ASKING OTHERS TO MODERATE OR CHANGE THEIR COMMENTING.

	Let Rich delete what he wants and stop complaining about others.  Or worse, get people involved in these silly conversations (like this one) and try to subtly insult them (like you are above).  Because I&#039;ll tell you that Rich Hammond probably doesn&#039;t want it going on.  That&#039;s why he has at times threatened to shut down commenting all together.

	Again.  Read or don&#039;t read the comments of others, but don&#039;t feel the need to tell them how to comment.  OK?

	BTW - I&#039;ve seen Stripes, and while it&#039;s not the Illiad, I get the reference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynic,</p>
<p>	You&#8217;re obviously intelligent, so I assume that when you say &#8220;lighten up frances&#8221; or &#8220;pick up ya game, son&#8221; you know what it is you are doing (i.e. using loaded words and phrases).  I do, and have done it.  But, the fact that I would, and have, been deleted for saying less has not sunk in with you.  So, again, I say don&#8217;t presume to know what it&#8217;s like to be on one side of the grass when you&#8217;re not.</p>
<p>	I mentioned nothing about self-martyrdom, if there is such a thing.<br />
	I&#8217;ll just ask again, if you&#8217;ve ever witnessed the foul language and vitriol directed against Anthony, and if you can recognize that it is against the rules.  Some are deleted for trifles, while others curse, and go on and on about others&#8217; comments.  There is no &#8220;fairness&#8221; in it, but that&#8217;s the way it is.  All I&#8217;m asking you to do is to recognize this (by stepping back and thinking about it a bit) and REFRAIN FROM ASKING OTHERS TO MODERATE OR CHANGE THEIR COMMENTING.</p>
<p>	Let Rich delete what he wants and stop complaining about others.  Or worse, get people involved in these silly conversations (like this one) and try to subtly insult them (like you are above).  Because I&#8217;ll tell you that Rich Hammond probably doesn&#8217;t want it going on.  That&#8217;s why he has at times threatened to shut down commenting all together.</p>
<p>	Again.  Read or don&#8217;t read the comments of others, but don&#8217;t feel the need to tell them how to comment.  OK?</p>
<p>	BTW &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen Stripes, and while it&#8217;s not the Illiad, I get the reference.</p>
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		<title>By: tantrum4</title>
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		<dc:creator>tantrum4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why Canadians laugh at American hockey fans....just sayin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why Canadians laugh at American hockey fans&#8230;.just sayin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cris-

	Wow. Just Wow. You really don&#039;t get it. You post with intelligent dialogue, but you really don&#039;t get it. Wow.

	OK, No I don&#039;t feel like anyone here is lashing out at me.

	No, I can&#039;t believe that what I wrote above you would be deleted if you had written it. There&#039;s really no venom in it, just observations put in a respectful manor (Less the always humorous &#039;Lighten Up Frances&#039; Stripes movie reference.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrllCZw8jiM

	What makes you think that ANY of us here have never been on the wrong end of anything? Self-Martyrdom is ugly dude. You type like you&#039;re better than that.

	Pick up ya game, son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cris-</p>
<p>	Wow. Just Wow. You really don&#8217;t get it. You post with intelligent dialogue, but you really don&#8217;t get it. Wow.</p>
<p>	OK, No I don&#8217;t feel like anyone here is lashing out at me.</p>
<p>	No, I can&#8217;t believe that what I wrote above you would be deleted if you had written it. There&#8217;s really no venom in it, just observations put in a respectful manor (Less the always humorous &#8216;Lighten Up Frances&#8217; Stripes movie reference.) <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrllCZw8jiM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrllCZw8jiM</a></p>
<p>	What makes you think that ANY of us here have never been on the wrong end of anything? Self-Martyrdom is ugly dude. You type like you&#8217;re better than that.</p>
<p>	Pick up ya game, son.</p>
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		<title>By: wavesinair</title>
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		<dc:creator>wavesinair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL nykingsfan! Oh, the education in this country kills me.

	Ironically, Justice Stewart later changed his mind and accepted that his prior view was &quot;simply untenable.&quot;

	I rest my case.

	-Justice waves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL nykingsfan! Oh, the education in this country kills me.</p>
<p>	Ironically, Justice Stewart later changed his mind and accepted that his prior view was &#8220;simply untenable.&#8221;</p>
<p>	I rest my case.</p>
<p>	-Justice waves</p>
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		<title>By: cristobal</title>
		<link>http://lakingsinsider.com/2009/10/29/tonights-game-story-oct-28/#comment-8189</link>
		<dc:creator>cristobal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynic

	Quisp will provide the 10,000 word essays around here.
	Feel like I&#039;m lashing out at you and lacking humility???  Now you know what it&#039;s like to be &quot;cristobal&quot; just a little bit, except your comments weren&#039;t deleted.
	I can guarantee you, there was a time when if I had written what you wrote above, it would have been deleted.

	Anyway, like I said earlier, until you&#039;ve been on the other side, you shouldn&#039;t assume to know what it looks like from there.
	And, you just dismiss the reasonable question I make about double standards.
	Too much reality, I guess.

	But, this has all grown tiresome anyway.

	Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynic</p>
<p>	Quisp will provide the 10,000 word essays around here.<br />
	Feel like I&#8217;m lashing out at you and lacking humility???  Now you know what it&#8217;s like to be &#8220;cristobal&#8221; just a little bit, except your comments weren&#8217;t deleted.<br />
	I can guarantee you, there was a time when if I had written what you wrote above, it would have been deleted.</p>
<p>	Anyway, like I said earlier, until you&#8217;ve been on the other side, you shouldn&#8217;t assume to know what it looks like from there.<br />
	And, you just dismiss the reasonable question I make about double standards.<br />
	Too much reality, I guess.</p>
<p>	But, this has all grown tiresome anyway.</p>
<p>	Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cris- Keep your Illiad references. First off, I started this dialogue on this thread here, so I know exactly what I meant when I started it. In spite of your beliefs about the thought police, people on BOTH sides of this discussion have managed to do one helluva fine job self-managing the civility of the dialogue.

	Usually, when someone is lashing out because of a supposed &#039;Miscarriage of justice&#039;, ex: you being banned, it&#039;s usually because they&#039;ve never put humility into the equation and looked at what it was they did to get banned in the first place. It&#039;s always &#039;everyone else&#039;s fault&#039; their idealisms are not understood. I&#039;m not going to speak for you, but the impression you&#039;re giving is speaking volumes.

	If my simple, straightforward statement was too much for you, I&#039;m sorry. Next time I&#039;ll write a 1000 word essay that says the same thing. I just don&#039;t think it reasonable to label people&#039;s viewpoints when those people SPECIFICALLY took that label off in their own words. Like your words are more right and important than their own when describing their personal feelings? Sounds a little more Big Brother to me than anything Quisp, NYKing or myself had said.

	In other words: If I say I don&#039;t want to ban or shut down anyone, I just want them to respect others as they would want respect given to them, I probably mean just that. Hard to place an agenda over that and for jiminy sakes, this is a BLOG, not the government.

	Lighten up Frances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cris- Keep your Illiad references. First off, I started this dialogue on this thread here, so I know exactly what I meant when I started it. In spite of your beliefs about the thought police, people on BOTH sides of this discussion have managed to do one helluva fine job self-managing the civility of the dialogue.</p>
<p>	Usually, when someone is lashing out because of a supposed &#8216;Miscarriage of justice&#8217;, ex: you being banned, it&#8217;s usually because they&#8217;ve never put humility into the equation and looked at what it was they did to get banned in the first place. It&#8217;s always &#8216;everyone else&#8217;s fault&#8217; their idealisms are not understood. I&#8217;m not going to speak for you, but the impression you&#8217;re giving is speaking volumes.</p>
<p>	If my simple, straightforward statement was too much for you, I&#8217;m sorry. Next time I&#8217;ll write a 1000 word essay that says the same thing. I just don&#8217;t think it reasonable to label people&#8217;s viewpoints when those people SPECIFICALLY took that label off in their own words. Like your words are more right and important than their own when describing their personal feelings? Sounds a little more Big Brother to me than anything Quisp, NYKing or myself had said.</p>
<p>	In other words: If I say I don&#8217;t want to ban or shut down anyone, I just want them to respect others as they would want respect given to them, I probably mean just that. Hard to place an agenda over that and for jiminy sakes, this is a BLOG, not the government.</p>
<p>	Lighten up Frances.</p>
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