Re to Crow:
Nope again I hated Crow from day one, same with Clouts. People were all happy when we hired Crow. The reoccurring theme with him was that he brought playoffs and stanley cup experience. Yeah so does Murray…soooo…Just sayin’

Re to Fro and Williams:

I state over and over on these boards that Murray is a goof for placing Williams on the point and people kept saying…Oh what do u know about coaching…Then Murray does it and all of a sudden I’m a forgotten idea.

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“Mostly it seems like you’re taking obvious, well-travelled and fairly popular ideas and claiming that you were part of a maligned minority who espoused them.”

YES THEY are OBVIOUS and I’ve been stating them BEFORE they become so OBVIOUS! but during the time of things happening, NO ONE agrees and turns the blind eye. We fast forward a few months and all of a sudden people are on board. But by the time those problems are solved I’m off on other ones which people disagree with until its a constant problem all season long and we don’t make the playoffs again.

LOOK in the archieves in LGK…I made a ton of money off betting that Labs would let a goal in the first 5 mins and or 5 shots. I won that bet 90% of the time and would post it on the GDT usually on the first page for all to see. People started to take notice because I was right to whole time and THATS when they slowly started to realized that YES Labs is a problem. But when I first brought it up, no one bought into it.

Quisp search Williams and WWAMD in LGK and you’ll get a ton of information.

Thanks for taking time to dissect my arguments. But I’ll be around for a while and sooner rather then later, people will finally buy into what I have to say RIGHT away instead of waiting for all to fail first and then forgetting where they heard it first.

…uhhhh 2nd that!

I’ve been posting for ages that Labs needed the boot. Everyone called me delusional then. Then just prior to him getting the boot, everyone was on the bandwagon.

Go check out the archives. Most people thought JLB needed to go, from basically day one. You were not the “lone voice of reason” on that one. It was fairly obvious to most people that JLB was a backup promoted to his level of incompetence.

I was delusional when I said DL was dumb for hiring Crow and Cloutier.

I can’t remember anyone for any length of time thinking that Cloutier was a good idea. Before he played a game for the Kings, there was some wishful thinking.

I was delusional when DL signed Calder and Alyn (I hated those signings, but I was delusional at the time)

Neither of those players were ever good enough anywhere, or important enough, for anyone to care about, much less call anyone delusional who didn’t like them. MacAuley (sp?) ended up with a career ending injury, so I’m not sure what you’re prescience was supposed to be. Did you predict this? Calder, who I didn’t like (along with a million people, again you’re not exactly alone on this), was nothing more than a band-aid.

Then this season comes around and I’m delusional so far because I believe Fro should be on the top 2 lines

(1) Fro is a top-six forward. Everyone knows this. (2) He is on the top-two lines. Because there are no line numbers, really. There’s the first line, and two second lines, called #2 and #3.

and Williams should have never been on the point on the PP.

I pointed out the Williams weakness long ago. I don’t remember anyone saying I was “delusional.”

Now Murray makes those adjustments and everyone praises him. Yet when I suggested it I was delusional.

Frolov is on the same line he has been since the start of the season. As far as I can tell, people did not praise him for taking Williams off the point, but just kind of said “duh.” Maybe that was you, I don’t remember.

I also stated how important JJ is on our PP last season and I was considered delusional then

This year, JJ has been on the ice for 4 PP goals, and 1 goal against. I believe he has two PP assts. No goals. Last year, he was on the ice for 10 goals for and 4 goals against (all numbers for 5on4 only), playing less than half a season. His points per 60 minutes on the powerplay are about double what they were last year. Maybe I’m mistaken, but didn’t pretty much everybody say that JJ needed to spend more time on the powerplay?

ppl were offering JJ trade proposals for peanuts. I said he’s important and now everyone can’t get enough of him.

Well, please. JJ is a star in the making. Everyone knows this. He’s a kid, but he’s a star-kid. It’s not like you were out there saying Drew Bagnall is one to watch you heard it here first. Most of those trade proposals valued him pretty highly, if memory serves (e.g. Frolov and Johnson for Heatley, that kind of thing).

So am I delusional or just ahead of the game?

Mostly it seems like you’re taking obvious, well-travelled and fairly popular ideas and claiming that you were part of a maligned minority who espoused them.

I’m also going off on a note, I’m delusional that Hickey will never accumulate [sic - amount?] to anything, he was Lombardi’s worst pick.

You’re on record. Lots of people agree with you, though. Thus, the gasps in the arena when Hickey’s name was announced at the draft. As far as Hickey’s numbers, which I think you commented on elsewhere, he’s got 7 points in 15 games in Manchester, which — at just less than a half point a game — is far better than any other Manchester defenseman has ever done, including Voynov. So yeah, he sucks.

The Kings could be DOMINATING right now.

They are dominating right now.

I’m delusional in Hextall is the worst goalie coach in the NHL.

You’re delusional that he’s a goalie coach.

WTH is up with Quick coming out 40 feet to stop shoots [sic]?

You’ve heard about this angle thing, right?

I noticed Labs started doing that towards the end of his stay in LA and thats when Crap hit the fan.

But, but, but you were the first to see that Labs sucked, right?

I’m also delusional in believing Williams will not play more then 30 games this year.

Again, it’s not like you’re picking an iron-man here. This is someone with a serious history of injuries.

I was delusional last season when I said it would take him less then 10 games to get hurt…Just saying!

Really. Show me where you predicted before last season started that a player on Carolina would be hurt before the ten game mark. All I require is a link to a comment. How hard is that?

Stop right there with that Hickey nonsense. Have you ever seen him play? Because I have. Give the kid a couple years in the AHL to hone his skills and you’ll see. He’s not a big bruising defenseman like Tuebert, he plays more of a Neidermayer game, which I’ll take anyday. So lay off Hickey!

Lets see, I’ve been posting for ages that Labs needed the boot. Everyone called me delusional then. Then just prior to him getting the boot, everyone was on the bandwagon. I was delusional when I said DL was dumb for hiring Crow and Cloutier. Then when the “explicit” hit the fan with those two everyone forgot how much I hammered it in that that both sucked, but all of a sudden everyone agreed that they were bad ideas. I was delusional when DL signed Calder and Alyn (I hated those signings, but I was delusional at the time)

Then this season comes around and I’m delusional so far because I believe Fro should be on the top 2 lines and Williams should have never been on the point on the PP. Now Murray makes those adjustments and everyone praises him. Yet when I suggested it I was delusional.

I also stated how important JJ is on our PP last season and I was considered delusional then, ppl were offering JJ trade proposals for peanuts. I said he’s important and now everyone can’t get enough of him.

So am I delusional or just ahead of the game?

I’m also going off on a note, I’m delusional that Hickey will never accumulate to anything, he was Lombardi’s worst pick. Murray is a horrible coach. I know the Kings are winning but Murray will find a way to F that up. The Kings could be DOMINATING right now. I’m delusional in Hextall is the worst goalie coach in the NHL….WTH is up with Quick coming out 40 feet to stop shoots? I noticed Labs started doing that towards the end of his stay in LA and thats when Crap hit the fan. Is this something Hextall teaches? He should never be that far out. I’m also delusional in believing Williams will not play more then 30 games this year. I was delusional last season when I said it would take him less then 10 games to get hurt…Just saying!

That’s the same reason he will put JW on the 1st line when he is healthy. He wants his players playing hard – not fearing they will lose their spot if they get injured.

I also completely agree about Ivanans. The time has come for all of the no-talent goons in the NHL to become distant memories.

However a coach gets judged by the performance of the team. Williams has a track record. He has won a cup. He has scored over 30 goals in a season. He plays hard and sets a good example for the kids. With the track record of the team at this point, it is hard to be so critical of the coach for a having Williams on the point on the power play.

Without being in the locker room, on the bench, and on the ice with the team, it is hard to really hard to know what Murray’s coaching weaknesses and strengths really are. We can only judge him by the performance of the team.

Last year a young team learned how to play a more defensively responsible game. With better early season goal tending they would have been a contender for a playoff spot. This year they have grown by leaps and bounds. Smyth is certainly part of the equation but you have to give the coach credit.

Several NHL teams have decided that Murray does know how to coach. With that, the team will succeed or fail with him at the helm. Until it is determined that the team and Murray have failed, I have to believe that he knows the game and his players better than you or I do.